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re: CJJ looks exhausted in his interviews now

Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:09 am to
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17375 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:09 am to
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2 years removed from a National Championship, they fired Ed Orgeron.


O wasn't a Woody hire and Johnson doesn't have photos of him banging Gulf Coast blondes all over the internet or threatening radio callers on the air.

If O hadn't checked out and brought bad PR to the school the way he did he probably would have been given another year or 2. He's since said he has no interest to coach again, my guess is he probably wanted to quit after the natty but didn't want to walk away from the money.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4359 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:05 am to
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It isn’t like Jay hasn’t won at other places and only had one year he coached good team.


Stats do not lie. Johnson's record got worse each year at Arizona, until a bounce back in his last season there. I'm not saying that this will happen at LSU, but it may speak to a cycle in establishing his program.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57911 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:06 am to
Hopefully Jay now realizes that he bit off way more than he could chew with the development this year. More established players, less projects.

I think he's a great developer of offensive talent as you can see with Bear Jones this year, but you can't expect to develop a whole roster like that in one offseason. There's only so many coaches and hours to go around.

He also spent all that time on Milazzo and hasn't played him as much as he should.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72458 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:08 am to
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More established players, less projects.


Like Braswell, Bingham, Holman, and Loer?
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
2876 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:11 am to
Noticed that as well. He lives and breathes his job. Nobody wants to win more than CJJ. His commitment to the continued excellence of LSU Fighting Tiger Baseball is unquestionable.

Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
7785 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:30 am to
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Yeah we were discussing this exact topic in our group chat. I think Jay knows he has majority of his own players and can’t rely on Paul’s guys. I don’t think he knows what he got into. Another year of this next year and I think he’s gone


It’s frightening to think that there is a whole group of retards.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4129 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:50 pm to
Probably tired from realizing what a bunch of crybaby LSU fans are.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49089 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:26 pm to
Ed O started looking this, Ed O 2.0
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12049 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:42 pm to
Seven National Championships in Baseball since 1990 and fans are still not satisfied. Add one Runner-Up too !

LSU will be attractive to elite baseball coaches.
The best schools will have off years. Only one team dog piles in Omaha. Think how lucky LSU has been winning 7 titles in 19 trips to the CWS.

It’s impossible to win it all every year. We lose experience at some point while other programs gain experience.

LSU is college baseball !
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65268 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:53 pm to
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The best schools will have off years.

yep.

Just for perspective. Dave Van Horn, coming off an Omaha appearance, went 7-23 in the SEC in 2016.

Kevin O'Sullivan had a losing overall record in 2013 after 4 straight Omaha appearances. He's also flirting with a losing record this year after a runner-up finish last year.

Jim Schlossnagle, after 4 straight Omaha appearances, went 10-13 in the Big 12 and missed the NCAAT in 2018.

The last two champions before us were both awful in the seasons that followed.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2160 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Stats do not lie. Johnson's record got worse each year at Arizona
his record improved each year he was at Nevada, it’s stupid to play this game, Jay took Zona to Omaha the same amount of times as Andy Lopez in a shorter amount of seasons.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278953 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:04 pm to
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The best schools will have off years.


Yea, especially when you are taking over for a coach who by all intents & purposes, was told to step down. There is usually a reason for that. The players weren’t good enough overall. Once Johnson supplemented what was left with Skenes & white, you only had it for 1 year.

It’s hard to replicate success when you haven’t even really had a chance to stack your own recruiting classes. This is probably the low point & in a vacuum it’s not even that bad
Posted by Nomadic Bengal
Member since Jul 2022
1517 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:14 pm to
Why do you even post? It's always some angry a-hole bullshite that gets a million downvotes. Never anything of substance, just argument starting with other members.
Can't imagine what it must be like to live with you.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166714 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:17 pm to
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Why do you even post?


jj has a lot to prove that he can develop talent to large extents. we have gaping holes on the roster. not sure this is an overnight fix.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2160 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:37 pm to
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jj has a lot to prove that he can develop talent to large extents.
does he? I can list you about 6 guys he specifically recruited that were drafted in the first round of the MLB draft.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70698 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:48 pm to
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jj has a lot to prove that he can develop talent to large extents


Did he not develop Beloso?

Did Jobert not take a massive step forward year over year with Jay?

Has he not developed Braswell?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71538 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:51 pm to
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Did he not develop Beloso?

Did Jobert not take a massive step forward year over year with Jay?

Has he not developed Braswell?


This is the same argument I made when people (stupidly) said Paul only won because he had Smoke's players.

Didn't work on here.
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1826 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:55 pm to
I saw 34 year old Mike Archer look 75 in about three years at LSU. The pressure to win puts a lot of pressure on coaches. Archer wasn't prepared to be a Head Coach but if I remember correctly, Coach Arnsparger and those in power gave him the job as Anrnsparger was leaving. He took a 10 win type team ranked top 5 and buried it and it aged him quick.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65268 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:17 pm to
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This is the same argument I made when people (stupidly) said Paul only won because he had Smoke's players. Didn't work on here.

It’s an endless. Circle. Apparently Paul only won with Smoke’s players and Hay with Paul’s. So I guess we have a black hole of a lot of success over nearly 20 years and none of that success or development attributed to anyone.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Chad504boy
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am confident he will right this ship before next season. Sure guy.


Glad I saw you post this. This is 100% guaranteed he will be great.
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