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re: New York Judge Says 2nd Amendment 'Doesn't Exist in This Courtroom'

Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:07 am to
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:07 am to
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Is it really a "ghost" gun if they know he has them?

Not what makes it a "ghost" gun. It's a lack of serial number


I have been milling my own lowers for a few years and having a gunsmith laser engrave serial numbers and identification marking on them. ATF was fine with that under Trump's administration but it's a different story under Biden. My gunsmith doesn't want 80% lowers in his shop at all. Totally afraid of the ATF.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96544 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:08 am to
Reminds me of a bit from the “hat squad” 50s era crime movie “Mulholland Falls.”


LAPD hat squad arrests mobster, says they are taking him to the airport to send him back east.

They drive him up Mulholland Blvd to a peak, say they are at the airport at Mulholland Falls.


It dawns on the guy what is happening and he says “You can’t do this! This is America!”


Head cop says “This ain’t America, Jack. This is LA!” and tosses him off Mulholland.



Same cop later runs afoul of the FBI in an investigation and the FBI harasses the guy through search warrants on his property and other matters.


The cop’s response is to knock out the agent’s two partners, beat the guy up, drag him off federal property, and say the following.


“That’s federal property. This isn’t. This is my town where I can steal your car, frick your wife, and kill your dog. The only thing you can do about it is not be found by me and I’ve already found you.”
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73022 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:09 am to
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Was there already a ruling on the applicability of 2A




Yes. It's called the Constitution, my friend.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96544 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:11 am to
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George Komla Darkeh


So many jokes possible from this alone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:13 am to
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Yes. It's called the Constitution, my friend.

There still has to be a ruling within the case
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73022 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:13 am to
I was being facetious.

That aside, do you suppose this judge read Bruen?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30951 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:14 am to
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Not what makes it a "ghost" gun. It's a lack of serial number


And what exactly does a serial number do?

ETA: My point is that they already can find out who bought the parts and where from. So are any of these really "ghost guns"?
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:15 am to
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That aside, do you suppose this judge read Bruen?

No.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13028 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:16 am to
Has SFP been along yet to praise the judge as a “brilliant legal scholar”?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:16 am to
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Has SFP been along yet to praise the judge as a “brilliant legal scholar”?


Another L for your cap
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73022 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:17 am to
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ATF was fine with that under Trump's administration but it's a different story under Biden.


You understand Trump laid the groundwork for AFT and DOJ to push that kind of bullshite, right?

He fricking bragged about it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73022 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:17 am to
I wonder why...

Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24779 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:18 am to
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This is an astounding level of stupidity and hubris.



You just defined the entire left wing. You forgot to add smug to that list
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 9:19 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4405 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:19 am to
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No chance. Gun rights groups will jump all over this.


Absolutely. You have a judge openly saying that the 2A doesn’t exist. He will win on appeal and the case will be dropped. It won’t be pushed to the SCOTUS because they don’t want another SCOTUS decision favoring gun rights.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39606 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:19 am to
while we all appreciate, and have come to expect, you running cover for this judge, its hard to argue context with a direct quote like:
quote:

‘Do not bring the Second Amendment into this courtroom. It doesn’t exist here. So you can’t argue Second Amendment. This is New York.'


Everything you said makes sense until the judge says "This is New York".

Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6611 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:28 am to
It appears that some law schools have gone to pot. Don't they give tests there still?

We have a ration of judges that are proud to be morons and teachers that are sex crazy.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:29 am to
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Should be removed from the bench immediately. This is an astounding level of stupidity and hubris.
Its a WOMAN.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10616 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:32 am to
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Was there already a ruling on the applicability of 2A or a motion in limine about referencing it? The article does not say b/c it's shitty. I got 5 SFP dollars that the judge's comments reference something along those lines, where a ruling was already made and the "it doesn't exist here" comment meant within the trial context.


Let's assume that's the case. Do you not see a problem with said ruling?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10616 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:37 am to
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Not what makes it a "ghost" gun. It's a lack of serial number


So all he needs to do is make up serial numbers for them, etch them onto the gun, and he should be ok. He could just use his initials followed by the number order in which he made them. DT-001, DT-002......DT-013. Then he would have legally bought parts that made guns WITH serial numbers.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51855 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:52 am to
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She told us, ‘Do not bring the Second Amendment into this courtroom. It doesn’t exist here. So you can’t argue Second Amendment. This is New York.'


Somewhere in Virginia, someone just became very angry...

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