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re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:52 pm
[quote]Second those real ranking values were posted on April 10th before BI returned and played horrible down the stretch and the playoffs. And yes that will affect his ranking but go ahead- hold onto the April 10th ranking to argue your point.[/quote] Do you think Trae's season is going to move hi...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:50 pm
[quote]IF Garland can average 27 and 11, why doesn't he?[/quote] I already said he can play within an offense. I'm sure if Garland was allowed to just sit on the ball all game, he could. Lots of guys could. BI probably even could. Garland's highest FGA is 17.3. Trae topped 20, the 2 years h...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:44 pm
[quote]I like the idea of Trae Young as you are really only committing two years to him to see if he fits. I think you can get him this offseason basically for a BI swap without having to include a ton of picks. You aren't committing to him for 5 years as you would with BI.[/quote] I get this, but ...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:42 pm
[quote]To be clear those are TRADE VALUE rankings.[/quote] There was a trade value ranking and a ranking ranking. BI was ahead in both....

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:30 pm
[quote]Garland got bounced in the first round last year, took 7 games to get to round two with an early exit in that series. And got to round two probably from playing an inexperienced young team that had been in the lottery for years. All this while playing with an all nba player in the backcour...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:29 pm
[quote]Yet he didn’t do that successfully because he was pretty bad offensively in the playoffs this year [/quote] It's not working with DMitch, hence the trade chatter. Y'all are having a hard time not defining careers based off single playoffs runs, in this discussion :lol:...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:19 pm
[quote]Trae has had playoff success[/quote] Once, and never came close to repeating it. We have a big enough sample at this point to determine it was an outlier. [quote]but I don’t understand what ground you’re standing on to say Garland is a better player?[/quote] The fact that he can play wi...
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re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 1:06 pm
[quote]You really think Garland can carry a team to the conference finals as the best player?[/quote] Garland can have a miracle-outlier 2nd round where Ben Simmons refuses to dunk a basketball, yes. I don't think Trae has won a round since that outlier run. ...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 12:34 pm
[quote]Correct, but with the elevation of some players this season like Brunson who has elevated themselves above Ingram,[/quote] Who didn't have Brunson above BI? :confused: He was closer to top-10 than top-30...
I am about to have meetings started. Do you Big10 boys have this under control?...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 12:29 pm
[quote]There's no realistic world where any argument can be made that BI is better than Trae. SFP will fail at that, 100% of the time.[/quote] yeah only me...other than that informal poll that was just reported on, and Bill Simmons, among others. ONLY me, though. [link=(https://nbarankings.th...
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re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 12:20 pm
[quote]I think he's closer to 40 than he is 25, to be honest. I would have him somewhere between 32-36ish. I would have BI pretty close to that as well.[/quote] Correct, with BI being better...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 12:19 pm
[quote]One is a top 25 player,[/quote] None of Garland, Bi, or Trae are top-25 players :lol: They're all int he 40-60 range (as nice as I can be to Trae)...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 12:05 pm
[quote]That's like saying Ayton is a better playmaker than Jokic.[/quote] You need to work on your comps. :lol:...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 11:47 am
[quote]Or when Garland does this in crunch time[/quote] The first reply to this tweet sums it up [quote]Lol it's easy to fall in love with him watching his highlights. A few full games will paint a different picture.[/quote] Garland can't hear this discussion b/c he's in the 2nd round of th...
[quote]Should I be able to go to Mexico and site our Constitution if I get into trouble?[/quote] No. We're discussing illegal aliens coming here and the protections of the US Constitution. Your comparison only follows the discussion logically if the illegal aliens came here and cited the[i] Mex...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 11:38 am
[quote]So Trae is not a traditional point guard but averages 10 assists a game??[/quote] Yes. In what way is "holding onto the ball and not initiating any sort of set offense and only passing when he can get an easy assist" playing "traditional" pg? Maybe in the crazy 1960s? [quote]Acco...

re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted by SlowFlowPro on 5/16/24 at 11:34 am
[quote]Trae is great at making plays for others[/quote] Can he do this without dominating the ball? Garland can. ...