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Wind Power Production Drops Despite 6.2GW of Added Capacity

Posted on 5/1/24 at 6:55 am
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11920 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 6:55 am
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But what happens when you build massive amounts of wind energy capacity and it doesn’t deliver — not for a day or a week, but for six months, or even an entire year? That question is germane because, on Wednesday, the Energy Information Administration published a report showing that U.S. wind energy production declined by 2.1% last year. Even more shocking: that decline occurred even though the wind sector added 6.2 GW of new capacity!


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The EIA also explained that the capacity factor for America’s wind energy fleet, also known as the average utilization rate, “fell to an eight-year low of 33.5%.” That compares to 35.9% capacity factor in 2022 which was the all-time high.


Note that “capacity factor” is the percentage of actual power produced compared to the nameplate or rating. For example, nuclear and natural gas power plants can consistently operate at capacity factors over 90%.

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Imagine if the U.S. had spent that same $300 billion on a weather-resilient form of generation, like, say, nuclear power. That’s relevant because Unit 4 at Plant Vogtle in Georgia came online on Monday. With that same $300 billion, the U.S. could have built 20, 30, or maybe even 40 GW of new nuclear reactors with a 92% capacity factor that wouldn’t rely on the whims of the wind.


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If climate change means we will face more extreme weather in the years ahead — hotter, colder, and/or more severe temperatures for extended periods — it’s Total Bonkers CrazytownTM to make our electric grid dependent on the weather. But by lavishing staggering amounts of money on wind and solar energy, and in many cases, mandating wind and solar, that’s precisely what we are doing.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4667 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 6:57 am to
Does wind ever even produce more value than what it costs to implement? Of all the renewable snakeoil it just seems like it's the oiliest.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4359 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:01 am to
Take your obvious bait to the PoliBoard.
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5588 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:14 am to
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Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27741 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:20 am to
Global warming. It's gotta be global warming doing it!
Posted by Beauregard96
Hopped up on goof balls
Member since Nov 2006
2167 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 7:24 am to
Who knew production would depend on something like....wind blowing a lot
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29273 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:04 am to
So, cut off power 2/3 of the time to all the Green New Deal proponents (especially Congress) and let them enjoy their “green” energy.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65988 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:13 am to
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Even more shocking: that decline occurred even though the wind sector added 1.21 JW of new capacity!
FIFY, Biff
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8188 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:18 am to
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Wind Power Production Drops Despite 6.2GW of Added Capacity


To put this in layman's terms, this is enough power to travel in time 5 times.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66485 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:27 am to
Wind and solar will NEVER be legitimate energy sources - they will always be supplemental

The future is nuclear
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10915 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:27 am to
300 billion spent on CoGen gas plants and your electrical bill would be probably 2/3 of what they are now.

Nuke is great, but it's too overly regulated and would take the better part of 1 to 2 decades to come online even at a place that already has some infrastructure present to support the build.

Obviously, you need a blend of different types of power, but with the glutton of natural gas, the quick assembly and relatively maintenance free operation, and most of all low cost of production... combined cycle is our path forward until there's a massive innovation in power generation.

Eta- Cogen Gas
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 8:41 am
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
564 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 8:50 am to
Sure, just completely disregard the absolute shite state of our electrical grid infrastructure that causes curtailments on a daily basis. The plants are producing far more than the grid can take, and until BESS technology can increase it's capacity/duration of storage, the WTGs will show a production drop against installed capacity.

Is the industry perfect? No. But you're being completely disingenuous by not pointing equal blame to our failing grid infrastructure that can't handle the power.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12697 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:03 am to
Wonder how much is being diverted to bitcoin mining. I know at least a couple hundred MW that is.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19793 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:28 am to
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If climate change means we will face more extreme weather in the years ahead — hotter, colder, and/or more severe temperatures for extended periods


The computer sims predict that virtually all of the warming will take place toward the poles with little or none toward the equator. That means less contrast and less energy in weather systems.

Warm eras have produced mild weather both in the historic record and the geological record. Less energy means less wind.
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
882 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:22 pm to
Lots of down time with gearbox problems and other mechanical and electrical issues is what an associate of mine who works in the industry told me.
But the nation will continue to push in the direction of wind and solar, there is a huge amount of taxpayer money involved and a lot of persuasive foreign interest.
When you track the subsidy money you see that one company, NextEra, has multiple spin off companies involved in wind and solar, in fact almost all have ties to NextEra. One very active company is Invenergy, a company whose CEO is Micheal Polsky, a guy who is from Ukraine.
Hmmm, wonder if there are any dots to connect…
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99334 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 2:46 pm to
Definitely time to shutter coal power
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4129 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 3:21 pm to
hoax=wind power
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28295 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:34 pm to
I've driven by a lot of these wind farms when I was driving OTR.
The thing that always struck me, even when there was plenty of wind, only 1/2 of the windmills would be turning.
Pretty sure that is on purpose to keep prices higher.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40213 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:58 pm to
As a landowner who recently cashed a big check from a wind company the answer is simple. More windmills preferably on land that I own!
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