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Remember the Titans
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:11 pm
didn't see a thread on it but obviously a classic. Watched it last weekend for the first time in probably 10 years and then the George of the Jungle thread got me thinking about it even more.
Such a great movie with great acting, story, setting, and soundtrack. Probably one of Denzels best roles and the whole cast does an excellent job.
I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could. Maybe a little too much "white man angry" but still not preachy.
Got some great one liners too. Just a great flick all the way around.
Such a great movie with great acting, story, setting, and soundtrack. Probably one of Denzels best roles and the whole cast does an excellent job.
I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could. Maybe a little too much "white man angry" but still not preachy.
Got some great one liners too. Just a great flick all the way around.
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:13 pm to Red12_Black4
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I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could.
Some of the sports stuff is definitely dramatized (which I get). For example, they actually kicked the shite out of their opponent in the championship game. But I get why a movie would make that change. I don’t believe Sunshine ever did schoolyard yoga.
And when Petey passed away a few years ago, he maintained that he didn’t have a fumbling problem.
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Jones later became a beloved security guard at T.C. Williams, where sometimes the male students would joke with him about his character’s famous fumbling problem in the movie, which Jones would later say was fictional.
“And I did not fumble the football,” Jones said in a 2014 story in The Washington Post.
Love that movie. One of my favorite in the sports category.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:16 pm to Red12_Black4
i like that they were the only school in the state with black people.
Its like they are in Virginia playing schools from Oregon
Its like they are in Virginia playing schools from Oregon
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:54 pm to Red12_Black4
One big thing is Alexandria has been an urban city since the 1700s. They made it seem like it was in a very rural part of the state.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:30 pm to Red12_Black4
I loved the movie when it first came out due to its message but after doing research on the historical events the film portrays, I can't help but feel robbed by Hollywood.
For one...Virginia had been integrated since the mid-60s and most of the players who went on to form that 1971 T.C. Williams Titans football team had already played on integrated teams before the area schools merged into one. There may have been some racial tensions among them, but most of the tension involved competition for starting spots. Also...the real Coach Boone was absolutely DESPISED by his players and was nothing like the Boone we saw portrayed by Denzel Washington. The man was a brutal task master and there was even a mutiny among the assistant coaches, led by none other than Coach Yost, several years after the 1971 championship season due to his cruelty toward players.
And as has already been stated, Petey never had a fumbling problem, Gerry Bertier and Julius Campbell were not best friends, and Bertier didn't have his car accident until after the season had concluded. Also...Yost's daughter was not the die hard football fan she was portrayed in the film.
In summary, the story about the 1971 T.C. Williams football team was heavily embellished. Almost none of it was true. It really makes you feel like you'd been had when you actually read up on what the real team was like.
For one...Virginia had been integrated since the mid-60s and most of the players who went on to form that 1971 T.C. Williams Titans football team had already played on integrated teams before the area schools merged into one. There may have been some racial tensions among them, but most of the tension involved competition for starting spots. Also...the real Coach Boone was absolutely DESPISED by his players and was nothing like the Boone we saw portrayed by Denzel Washington. The man was a brutal task master and there was even a mutiny among the assistant coaches, led by none other than Coach Yost, several years after the 1971 championship season due to his cruelty toward players.
And as has already been stated, Petey never had a fumbling problem, Gerry Bertier and Julius Campbell were not best friends, and Bertier didn't have his car accident until after the season had concluded. Also...Yost's daughter was not the die hard football fan she was portrayed in the film.
In summary, the story about the 1971 T.C. Williams football team was heavily embellished. Almost none of it was true. It really makes you feel like you'd been had when you actually read up on what the real team was like.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:33 pm to Red12_Black4
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I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could. Maybe a little too much "white man angry" but still not preachy.
modern day Hollywood and The Message has actually caused me to enjoy older movies that address race issues less. i always loved Remember the Titans, but now when I watch movies from this and previous eras, even though they work racial subplots into them in a fairly believable and not super obnoxious style, my 2024 warped brain is so easily triggered by this stuff that I just get aggravated. i guess partially because i see it now as like the early stages of what i now know Hollywood would become. i dont know, whatever.
that said, in a vacuum, Remember the Titans is a great fricking movie.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:10 pm to Red12_Black4
Never knew this was even based on a true story. Just thought it was a solid movie.
Oh well, it can’t be as false as Rudy was. According to Joe Montana he was just a normal walk on player that nobody gave a shite about and the whole movie was a laughable lie.
Oh well, it can’t be as false as Rudy was. According to Joe Montana he was just a normal walk on player that nobody gave a shite about and the whole movie was a laughable lie.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:01 pm to Red12_Black4
I love this movie, its a classic. My only frustration is that they got a lot of football terminology wrong. They kind of just threw football words in the script that didn't fit what was going on.
I haven't seen it in a while so I don't have any specific examples other than sunshine ducking the blitzer and ref telling the opposing coach "a flag on the QB, no way." Ducking under a tackler is in no way a flag, and if it were a flag, the QB wouldn't be immune to it because of his position. Little stuff like that.
But I digress. One of the best sports movies ever made!
I haven't seen it in a while so I don't have any specific examples other than sunshine ducking the blitzer and ref telling the opposing coach "a flag on the QB, no way." Ducking under a tackler is in no way a flag, and if it were a flag, the QB wouldn't be immune to it because of his position. Little stuff like that.
But I digress. One of the best sports movies ever made!
Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:21 pm to Red12_Black4
Loved that Gerry ran over to the opposing sideline, mid game, and did a death point to the coach
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:35 pm to Red12_Black4
Never understood why everyone liked this movie so much other they showed it in grade school like 900 times.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 7:22 pm to Red12_Black4
Ryan Gosling getting torched on every pass play is never not funny to me.
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