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Before everyone blows their wad over missing on the DTs
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:47 am
Let me say this.
People will melt over missing on these DTs but I promise you shouldn’t.
Captain had a great post about there being no real insiders anymore, and he is 100% right. As with every post on this board, take what I say with a grain of salt.
I know the NIL package Williams got from OU. It is ludicrous. There was a number circulating on a thread a few days ago about it, and it wasn't quite that high, but it was damn close. I promise you, if LSU matched (he liked LSU much better), then we would have had to give existing star players more. It just wasn’t worth it, so we pulled out.
I'm not so privy to the Barrow situation with Miami. But I know in the winter portal they were seriously overpaying to get players. I can almost guarantee you that's what happened here.
I know a lot of you won't care and wish we would just pay the price for these guys. Thats ok and I get where you all are coming from. But some of the bags these "decent" portal guys get would make you gag.
This ain't no troll either; check my post history.
Still be excited for next season, we have a really talented group.
People will melt over missing on these DTs but I promise you shouldn’t.
Captain had a great post about there being no real insiders anymore, and he is 100% right. As with every post on this board, take what I say with a grain of salt.
I know the NIL package Williams got from OU. It is ludicrous. There was a number circulating on a thread a few days ago about it, and it wasn't quite that high, but it was damn close. I promise you, if LSU matched (he liked LSU much better), then we would have had to give existing star players more. It just wasn’t worth it, so we pulled out.
I'm not so privy to the Barrow situation with Miami. But I know in the winter portal they were seriously overpaying to get players. I can almost guarantee you that's what happened here.
I know a lot of you won't care and wish we would just pay the price for these guys. Thats ok and I get where you all are coming from. But some of the bags these "decent" portal guys get would make you gag.
This ain't no troll either; check my post history.
Still be excited for next season, we have a really talented group.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 10:54 am
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:49 am to Shaggy01
Soo what if we don’t get any DT’s? You’re saying we are okay?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:51 am to Shaggy01
Supposedly Texas offered Williams $1.5 million and he turned them down.
I'm OK with LSU not coming anywhere near that. He's a good player, but not great.
I'm OK with LSU not coming anywhere near that. He's a good player, but not great.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:58 am to Shaggy01
If we do not get two decent DL before the year starts this will be a mediocre year again. A high-powered offense and a less than average defense again. The RB room will be a concern also. If Holly does not get cleared and we have one injury, we are down to two RB's. This is also a concern. Top priority is DL, then the RB room could be a major concern also.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:58 am to Shaggy01
The fact that this NIL deal for Williams got too rich for Texas of all teams should tell you all you need to know.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:59 am to Shaggy01
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we have a really talented group.
But we don’t, and it’s a big problem. If we just had average talent at that position we’d probably be ok. But being so weak at this position is inexcusable.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:07 am to Shaggy01
people getting mad at BK for not giving in to these demands are foolish. he is going to build through the HS ranks, now that he has the D side shored up. and he'll use the portal for marquee guys when needed.
i'm he has a $$ per position charted, not going to break the bank for a DT when like you said, he's then have to ante up to the rest of those guys. its not perfect, but once hes had 3-4 FULL recruiting cycles and this new D staff settled in, i think he approach will keep LSU in the discussions.
i'm he has a $$ per position charted, not going to break the bank for a DT when like you said, he's then have to ante up to the rest of those guys. its not perfect, but once hes had 3-4 FULL recruiting cycles and this new D staff settled in, i think he approach will keep LSU in the discussions.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:07 am to Shaggy01
LSU is just using the money towards recruiting. I think BK has the right idea you have to build through HS recruiting to win consistently. The portal will not get you NCs. It's to compliment what you have. It's short term at best and it doesn't fill gaps in depth either. You're always 1 injury away from disaster if you solely rely on portal.
You can make an argument nobody waits around anymore so HS isn't as relevant but I think that's a shortsighted way to look at it. You need a mix of both. There's a balance there. LSU was really good at it before this season. I think BK got gun shy after the awful portal showing from last year.
LSU has money but it's what BK wants. You nailed it right here. They don't want divas in the locker room with mediocre players coming in getting twice as much as stars like Perkins. Instant divide.
I will add just my personal opinion on this with nothing to base it on but speculation, but I don't think BK likes where NIL is going. I don't think he expected it to be this bad. With that in mind, he's probably not going to last as long as many think. I believe he'll hit retirement sooner than later. If he sniffs a NC here I don't think he's going to continue coaching beyond it.
You can make an argument nobody waits around anymore so HS isn't as relevant but I think that's a shortsighted way to look at it. You need a mix of both. There's a balance there. LSU was really good at it before this season. I think BK got gun shy after the awful portal showing from last year.
LSU has money but it's what BK wants. You nailed it right here. They don't want divas in the locker room with mediocre players coming in getting twice as much as stars like Perkins. Instant divide.
I will add just my personal opinion on this with nothing to base it on but speculation, but I don't think BK likes where NIL is going. I don't think he expected it to be this bad. With that in mind, he's probably not going to last as long as many think. I believe he'll hit retirement sooner than later. If he sniffs a NC here I don't think he's going to continue coaching beyond it.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:11 am to Shaggy01
I don’t think anyone is questioning if these guys deserve that much money - because I think most of us believe they don't.
But the fact is, no matter how “mid” they are, they’re still better than what’s currently on our roster.
But the fact is, no matter how “mid” they are, they’re still better than what’s currently on our roster.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:27 am to Shaggy01
shite ruined college football.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:32 am to Shaggy01
I’ll bookmark this for when teams are putting up 150 yards rushing a game on us. D line SUCKS
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:33 am to Shaggy01
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I promise you, if LSU matched (he liked LSU much better), then we would have had to give existing star players more
This is an under appreciated aspect of the whole thing. Paying a portal transfer that much money then putting him in the room with the rest of your team creates a whole new can of worms.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:44 am to Shaggy01
Man, I appreciate you trying to bring logic and sanity to the board, but it's futile. It's an echo chamber with so many people on here.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:51 am to Shaggy01
At the end of the day you can spend a ton on one player that may or may not make a difference. But what happens if that one player tears an acl in fall practice and never contributes. Not to mention the domino effect it has when other players find out what he was paid and decide they need to renegotiate. The system clearly is flawed and I would like a better defensive line situation as much as anyone but I'm not a fan of over paying for marginal players because we missed in recruiting. We have the staff capable of recruiting now.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:17 pm to Shaggy01
You've painted a purdy picture but, lets hope it doesn't rain. Bo has his work cut out for him. That 3 year expectation they had will turn into 6.
If you can't get some 3rd down stops, it doesn't matter how many points the O scores.
It starts up front and, it's a win now fan base.
If you can't get some 3rd down stops, it doesn't matter how many points the O scores.
It starts up front and, it's a win now fan base.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:12 pm to Shaggy01
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Captain had a great post about there being no real insiders anymore, and he is 100% right. As with every post on this board, take what I say with a grain of salt.
Insider or not, we just missed out on a guy we need more than any other player
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:24 pm to Shaggy01
Seeing those numbers tossed around I get it, don’t upset the balance of the team money wise. This is all on Kelly, LSU shouldn’t be in the position of desperation. This was a problem 2 years ago but it was just assumed he would address it at some point. You don’t wait until the last portal window to address it, everyone knows that their price just went up. Kelly gets kudos for the offense, but he has failed so far on defense.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 2:14 pm to Shaggy01
BK said LSU is not going to sign players who are just looking for $$$. He is right on this point. When the chips are down and the game is on the line the $$$ players are still playing for themselves. OU paid a ton of money for an above average DT.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:18 pm to Shaggy01
I’m not sweating it. Nothing like over paying for mediocrity and souring the entire unit.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:52 pm to Shaggy01
LSU will be passed up now and in the future because of NIL. We can’t compete
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