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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:18 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:18 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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So… if someone has heart disease and gets a stent or bypass, that must be against God’s will right?
If someone gets cancer and goes through surgery and chemotherapy, that has got to be against gods will then ?
If an old lady with a bad hip gets a new one, boom against god’s will.
Seems like if IVF is bad and against the will of God, so is literally ANY medical treatment ever discovered.
I mentioned in the second point of my OP that the nanosecond of conception, it’s a human life, but related to that and what I didn’t mention in that post is that with IVF, there are multiple conceived embryos discarded. The Catholic Church thinks those are humans with a soul, so in both cases (discarded IVF embryos vs euthanasia) it’s humans causing a death by their choice.
And “playing God” was maybe not the most clear/accurate way to word it, but IVF is often a mindset of “I choose this one, I don’t choose those ones”, “I want this sample, I don’t want this sample”, product/consumer way to look at a human life. That’s not the case with a stent, chemo or hip replacement. (And it’s also not the case of a child conceived naturally.)
If you a) don’t think a fetus/embryo is human until a heartbeat or viability or any other later point and/or b) if you don’t think sex is only meant to be a unitive bond between a husband and wife in holy matrimony (with the open possibility but not necessarily definite guarantee/ultimate endgame of a child), then of course it’s not going to make sense or seem bad/immoral at all. But that’s what the Catholic Church teaches. So it’s not “fertility treatments” are bad/wrong, it’s that IVF is because of those two reasons.
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Regardless, I haven’t looked it up, but I have no clue why Butker chose to go this route in a commencement speech. I haven’t listened and probably won’t listen to it, but it feels out of place, and I’m struggling to figure out how he’d tie it in to a message to 22-year-old college grads.
Now, 80-85%+ of the graduating class at Benedictine (if you know about the school) probably agree with him, but in that case, he’s not really telling them anything they don’t know/agree with. And he also had to know this would get out (so maybe that was his goal) but also had to know a lot of people wouldn’t get it, and that doesn’t seem the point of a commencement address. It’d be different if it was an interview with a journalist and a back-and-forth Q&A where he could expound to questions, but it’s hard for me to fully understand who his message was truly for/what he was trying to accomplish as a commencement speech.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:53 am to Buckeye Fan 19
Does he have a background of trying to be an influencer?
There is a candidate for Missouri’s Attorney General position who is definitely trying to get fired from her Fortune 500 job with her absurd social media posts so she can leverage that to become more of a social media influencer.
She has no chance of winning and she is tagging Andrew and Tristan Tate in all of her posts
Butker is different because he actually has something going on in his life, where he is considered a top 5-10 kicker in the NFL and is on a dynastic team.
There is a candidate for Missouri’s Attorney General position who is definitely trying to get fired from her Fortune 500 job with her absurd social media posts so she can leverage that to become more of a social media influencer.
She has no chance of winning and she is tagging Andrew and Tristan Tate in all of her posts
Butker is different because he actually has something going on in his life, where he is considered a top 5-10 kicker in the NFL and is on a dynastic team.
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