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re: 4 year long study on Wegovy/semaglutide shows heart benefits and safety
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:50 am to lsu777
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:50 am to lsu777
My post wasn't for/against these drugs. I was talking about your average 30 to 40 year old baw on here who is 50 pounds overweight. We both could take that same person get a blood panel done see what the issue(s) are and then put them on a proper diet, proper training, proper lifestyle, proper sleep, proper natural supplementation regimen and get rid of that 50 pounds and improve all of their biomarkers including testosterone free test total etc.
After that is done for 90 days we could then look at getting on other things if needed. That is all I was saying. The fast food sedentary lifestyle is causing the 'hormone' issues not the other way around. It can be defeated with or without these drugs and my post wasn't meant to be critical of either. It doesn't help that just about everything in food you get a grocery store is loaded with processed chemicals, flavorings, additives, oils, sweeteners, etc that get people hooked and addicted and then on top of that they lure people in by using buzzwords on the box like 'natural' or 'no trans fat' etc that make these people think they are ok and 'healthy'. This is a multi pronged issue from everything from the food companies to advertising to sedentary corporate office lifestyle etc.
After that is done for 90 days we could then look at getting on other things if needed. That is all I was saying. The fast food sedentary lifestyle is causing the 'hormone' issues not the other way around. It can be defeated with or without these drugs and my post wasn't meant to be critical of either. It doesn't help that just about everything in food you get a grocery store is loaded with processed chemicals, flavorings, additives, oils, sweeteners, etc that get people hooked and addicted and then on top of that they lure people in by using buzzwords on the box like 'natural' or 'no trans fat' etc that make these people think they are ok and 'healthy'. This is a multi pronged issue from everything from the food companies to advertising to sedentary corporate office lifestyle etc.
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:50 am to Lazy But Talented
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damn so i can finally get my 6 pack
if you are going to use it, follow my protocol i wrote on H&F board. you dont want to follow the drug company schedule, its way too aggressive for someone like you who already lifts and watches their diet but also suffers from random binging
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:50 am to lsu777
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and since you like to talk shite, what is your bodyfat %?
come on, my friend. This is the OT. You already know the answer here. 
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:52 am to ronricks
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The fast food sedentary lifestyle is causing the 'hormone' issues not the other way around. It can be defeated with or without these drugs and my post wasn't meant to be critical of either. It doesn't help that just about everything in food you get a grocery store is loaded with processed chemicals, flavorings, additives, oils, sweeteners, etc that get people hooked and addicted and then on top of that they lure people in by using buzzwords on the box like 'natural' or 'no trans fat' etc that make these people think they are ok and 'healthy'. This is a multi pronged issue from everything from the food companies to advertising to sedentary corporate office lifestyle etc.
And these drugs help address that addiction as well as the hormonal issues that keep many in the processed food loop.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:54 am to PrimeTime Money
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I’m confused. You were overweight but would throw up when eating food so you take a drug to help you to not eat food
I have a fairly common heridatary issue. It hit an uncle and grandmother particularly hard. I explained it earlier.
Ive been both super fit and overweight at various times. . This medication makes food an afterthought. Which gives my GI tract a rest. Which allows the GI tract to heal. Because I don’t crave the normal portion sizes and am satiated easily. I’m not talking about gluttony, I’m talking about the inability to eat a chicken breast. And over time, putting less pressure on your GI, you begin to heal and then you can eat a meal normally without becoming sick . Does that make sense?
So think about a hormone that makes food an afterthought and think about how that can be applied with gambling or alcohol or compulsive behavior.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:54 am to Lsupimp
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Our shitty diet has created hormone deficiency .
That's what I said verbatim and it can be fixed with or without these drugs. That is a fact. That is all I said. Read it again. I'm not going to coddle the obese fatties on here and try to make them feel good. They are fat lazy and disgusting because of their willingly lazy pathetic lifestyle choices. Its that simple. If you want to dance around it and make excuses or try to make them feel better have at it but those of us who have been doing this for decades know better. I've seen all this first hand.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:55 am to lsu777
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cool, so how does others using a medicine to do the same effect you? why do you care? does it make you feel like they are cheating even though they are not in competition with you?
The point
Your head
And all that glitters isn’t gold. There will be an issue with this that will reveal itself in a few years. There are no magic beans that lead to a goose that lays golden eggs.
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nobody but unless you experience food noise, then you wouldnt understand the cravings those people have. go take a grehilin antagonist and let me know if you are able to withstand the cravings.....that is the type of cravings some have daily due to suppressed GLP-1 and GIP
Pretty sure you don’t know me or what cravings I’ve dealt with.
As I stated earlier, I have empathy with obese people especially in rural communities because they have limited options.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:59 am to Lsupimp
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I have a fairly common heridatary issue.
Get out of here with this bullshite. Stop with the god damn excuses. Own up to what you are and fix it.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:00 am to Robin Masters
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I appreciate your overall sentiment but at 50yo I’ve lived long enough to have learned that there is no magic pill. There will be a massive side effect to these drugs. And if history is any guide it will likely come just after the drug companies have recouped their investment plus a few billion more and the subsequent lawsuits will be a few billion less than the profits.
The fats that didn't take it will be laughing from their grave at the neo-skinnies who are frantically calling the law firm's Wegrovy hotline to hopefully collect their small part of the settlement
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:01 am to Robin Masters
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The point
Your head
And all that glitters isn’t gold. There will be an issue with this that will reveal itself in a few years. There are no magic beans that lead to a goose that lays golden eggs.
again no it didnt go over my head
and again, the medicines have been in use for 2 decades....just because you just heard about it doesnt mean they are new
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Pretty sure you don’t know me or what cravings I’ve dealt with.
that is why i said..."unless you have experienced"
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:01 am to ronricks
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talking about your average 30 to 40 year old baw on here who is 50 pounds overweight. We both could take that same person get a blood panel done see what the issue(s) are and then put them on a proper diet, proper training, proper lifestyle, proper sleep, proper natural supplementation regimen and get rid of that 50 pounds and improve all of their biomarkers including testosterone free test total etc.
What about for a guy that works shift work and has one bad shoulder and can’t lift as much as you can. Works and plays through his pains. How would one normalize their circadian rhythms?
My point being, there are tons of hurdles for some people because people live different lifestyles. Different schedules. Different ways than you do that won’t allow them to achieve every checklist you’ve listed. Are those excuses? Or just a reality that’s completely different from yours?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:01 am to Robin Masters
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And all that glitters isn’t gold. There will be an issue with this that will reveal itself in a few years. There are no magic beans that lead to a goose that lays golden eggs.
What’s going to suddenly present that hasn’t over the last 20 years?
I wonder how many of you ignoring decades of studies when it comes to this drug got the vax.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:01 am to ronricks
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Get out of here with this bullshite. Stop with the god damn excuses. Own up to what you are and fix it.
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Get out of here with this bullshite. Stop with the god damn excuses. Own up to what you are and fix it.
huh?
he is talking about the other issue he has that causes him to throw up over and over that the medicine helped him fix
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:06 am to Prominentwon
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What about for a guy that works shift work
I've covered this before as that is different and requires even more work. Same goes for the baws with 3 or 4 kids on here. It's much more difficult for them. I don't expect a plant baw or a guy with 3 kids to just drop everything they are doing or their responsibilities. That's unrealistic. But, even in those more difficult situations there are changes that can be made to get the improvement going then take baby steps to build on it. I'm not on here to shite on guys who do shift work or have families and obligations. I would do everything in my power to help them get started and make it work within their schedule. The hard part is getting started once you do that the changes come and you get more used to it and it becomes second nature. Its all about lifestyle changes/adaptations.
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My point being, there are tons of hurdles for some people because people live different lifestyles. Different schedules.
No disagreement here. You have to be willing and creative in these scenarios.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:07 am to lsu777
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he is talking about the other issue he has that causes him to throw up over and over that the medicine helped him fix
Reeks of the 'big boned' excuse.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:08 am to ronricks
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That's what I said verbatim and it can be fixed with or without these drugs. That is a fact. That is all I said. Read it again. I'm not going to coddle the obese fatties on here and try to make them feel good. They are fat lazy and disgusting because of their willingly lazy pathetic lifestyle choices. Its that simple. If you want to dance around it and make excuses or try to make them feel better have at it but those of us who have been doing this for decades know better. I've seen all this first hand.
we know that and many know that
is your solution to keep trying what hasnt worked for these people for 2+ decades?
or maybe we stop expecting a different result and try something new
like i dunno...a medicine that has been in use for 2 decades, offers lots of other benefits and has a very low side effect profile?
call me crazy for not expecting a different result from the same tried and true methods
and you are exactly where i was couple years ago. expected everyone to be me and to do it the same way i did and would tell people they are lazy and everything else
then i realized...it is not a competition and everyone doesnt have the same active background and same background in lifting weights either
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:11 am to ronricks
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Own up to what you are and fix it.
He clearly has owned up to his issues and these meds are helping fix it. AND he works out.
What is you want here?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:12 am to lsu777
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again no it didnt go over my head
So you deliberately misrepresented my point then. Gotchya. Who’s in competition with whom now?
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that is why i said..."unless you have experienced"
You said unless I’ve experienced food noise…trying to discredit any other type of addiction and also suggesting it’s impossible to lose weight without a magic pill.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:12 am to lsu777
I'm not even talking about the GLP-1 drugs here. Not being for or against in this thread. Either way it can be fixed with or without them that is all I am saying. We both know this is the case. These folks likely need outside motivation and coaching on how to get started. I work with people just like this who get Bojangles on the way into the office for breakfast then Wendy's for lunch and get three 20oz cokes from the vending machine throughout the day all the while sitting in an office or cubicle for 8 hours a day which we both know might even be worse than all the fast food. These folks are doing it to themselves.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:12 am to ronricks
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That's what I said verbatim and it can be fixed with or without these drugs. That is a fact. That is all I said. Read it again. I'm not going to coddle the obese fatties on here and try to make them feel good. They are fat lazy and disgusting because of their willingly lazy pathetic lifestyle choices. Its that simple. If you want to dance around it and make excuses or try to make them feel better have at it but those of us who have been doing this for decades know better. I've seen all this first hand
Despite all the great information in this thread, particularly that of 777 , your primary argument is that you have the right to ridicule fat people for being weaker and fatter than you? Did someone challenge your right to be a self- satisfied physical and mental ubermensch? What are you even saying, lol? You know we are talking about helping people who may not have your self discipline or genetic blessings, right? We are giving them a TOOL to learn the skills you already possess. Why is that such a deal killer for you?
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