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re: Identify this snake.

Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81762 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Bottom is a water snake
That was my first thought, and common/Northern came to mind because of the lower jaw lines. It's definitely not a diamond backed and shows up on the net as western rat which I have never seen.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21611 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 2:56 pm to
So, both pics are the same snake?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81762 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 3:49 pm to
No, the first is the pic taken by the OP. The second is just a picture result from googling western rat snake. The snake encountered by OP may be a Western. See Tigerrrdad's post.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:40 am to
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shows up on the net as western rat which I have never seen.


The bottom is for sure a Western rat.Here are a couple Western rats I caught earlier this year. They can be quite darker than these though…





Both of these were caught at the same place…though I only got fined $230 for touching one of them.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:48 am to
…and here’s a gray rat I caught by my house.



Here are their ranges (there is some overlap):



Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81762 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:08 am to
LaSalle has zero rats
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

LaSalle has zero rats


I see a new mission in my future.

Redefined my current mission a couple nights ago after I cruised a dor partial anery mud snake. I knew there was such thing as an anery, but didn’t know there could be partials. Now I have to cruise that spot until I find a live one.





For the non-snake guys, an anery is anerythristic - it lacks the red pigment, making a mud snake black and white. A partial anery has a mix of white & red.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:38 am
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1082 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:53 am to
quote:

For the non-snake guys, an anery is anerythristic


Well, Mama says they anery cuz they got all them teeth but no toothbrush
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:47 pm to
Coming in hot with the snake & the dentistry joke.

Well done.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3175 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:13 pm to
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