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re: Darius garland or Trae young
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:24 pm to CP3forMVP
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:24 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:But that doesn't make sense because BI is nowhere near as good as Trae Young. That's really, really not close.
I think this is the disconnect. Given everything involved, on and off the court, I don't think Trae is a top 25 player. I think he's closer to 40 than he is 25, to be honest. I would have him somewhere between 32-36ish. I would have BI pretty close to that as well.
quote:1 guy is the clearcut best player in that group.
I think everyone we're talking about here, Trae, BI, Garland, Murray, are all hovering around the same area. Same tier sort of deal, give or take.
quote:Becuase Trae is clearly better.
So back to the motive, why I ask, you can't be against BI's max but be for Trae's. That doesn't make much sense.
He's averaged 27 & 10 over the past 5 seasons. At some point, we have to ask what are we doing here wondering if guys like BI/Garland/Murray are better...they're not, and it's not close.
Now if you want to argue culture and locker room reasons, I get that. But best player, it's Trae.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:32 pm to shel311
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He's averaged 27 & 10 over the past 5 seasons. At some point, we have to ask what are we doing here wondering if guys like BI/Garland/Murray are better...they're not, and it's not close.
Now if you want to argue culture and locker room reasons, I get that. But best player, it's Trae.
I'm not disagreeing that Trae is the best of that group, but there's lot more to the game than just box score numbers. If you look at on/off percentile for the last five seasons Trae is in the 92nd percentile in terms of offensive impact, he's in the 28th percentile in terms of defensive impact.
BI 76th and 49th
Garland 78th and 69th
Murray 49th and 53rd
Not saying those numbers are the end all be all, but they tell part of the story, even if a small part. Some of it is preference. For the things Trae does solve with the roster he opens up even more questions in other areas.
But none of this is even about that, it's about paying Trae in two years. I can't sit here and say I would be overcome with joy to do that.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 12:34 pm
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