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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:32 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:32 am to
Part 7 - ENTER THE GREYSKULL RESET- See page 38&39 & intermediate syndrome article for more info

Part 1 –The traditional reset
Almost every other LP program has you take 20% off the bar and work your way back to the weight you failed at using the same 5 rep sets. The Greyskull reset allows you to take 10-20% off the bar and complete the last set until failure. This allows you to go for a rep record. For example Johnny Joe Blow on Monday benches 200 lbs for 2x5 and 1x4. Now on Friday he can attempt that weight one more time. Let’s say he gets 2x5, 1x4 again. Well at that point he would take between 20 and 40 pounds off of the bar and start again. Let’s say he picks 10% (180 lbs). His next bench session he would do 180 lbs, this time he would be trying to beat the log book from the last time he did 180 lbs. So let’s say while working his way to 200lbs the first time he did 180x5x5x6 with 180lbs. Well this time at 180 Johnny Joe Blow does 180x5x5x11. Although he backed off the weight, do we think Johnny got stronger? frick yes he did.

This is the beauty of the Greyskull reset. It allows you to shoot for rep records on the way back up. Now Johnny works his way back up to 200lbs after a few sessions of setting rep records along the way and he does 200x5x5x7. Despite conventional wisdom Johnny was getting stronger the whole way back up to 200 because he didn’t arbitrarily stop the sets at 5 when he could have pushed for more reps.

The reality is that due the last set being As Many Reps as Possible (AMRAP), Greyskull actually is periodized. With the trainee immediately performing the 10% reset, the trainee will do just like the above example and hit much higher reps on his AMRAP set than they were before the stall at the same weight. This is of course due to the fact that you can do more reps with lighter weights than heavier weights and as shown above, 180lbs is no longer crazy heavy for JOE BLOW after his reset. The additional volume you are getting from these AMRAP sets, especially during a reset as you will be working closer to the 10 rep range, biases these reset periods much more towards hypertrophy. But again the bottom line is that if Joe Blow can now bench 180lbs for 11 reps he is stronger than he was when he could only do 180lbs for 7 reps; this is undisputable. This simple, yet often overlooked approach fixed the constant demotivation of resetting on the traditional LP programs. Essentially it made the reset fun and not a big deal and gives the lifter to destroy the log book and set rep records, all while packing on slabs of muscle.

This form or periodization is actually a form of the advanced technique of Auto-regulation. The program introduces it in a way that the trainee doesn’t have to think about it. Rippetoes books Practical Programming and the accompanying Texas Method program also introduce this concept, but they do it in such a complicated way that many lifters can never grasp the concept. Because of the simplicity of the GSLP. It allows trainees to understand the principles and the intensity required to see real results without reading 100 pages of studies.

This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:32 am to
Part 2 –The intermediate reset- Why the GSLP is infinitely adaptable – See intermediate syndrome article and page 92-98 in the book

First off let me say this type of reset should only be performed after stalling in a lift at least twice. For the novice lifter, this would more than likely be applied after 3 or 4 resets.

So many of you reading this will be saying, yea well what happens after I reset and I get stuck again and then again…..WELL, WELL, WELL we have any answer for that also.

So if you read the Intermediate Syndrome article I asked you read to in the first section, you would have any idea of where this is going. When Daunte Trudal introduced his now famous DoggCrapp Training method he introduced the training world to the idea of switching out stalled lifts for variants of that lift, example subbing bench for incline. Daunte did so because he realized that in the presence of proper nutrition, he who makes the most strength gains also gains the most muscle. This wasn’t a new concept in the powerlifting world as Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell had been doing something similar for years, but it was never out in the open like it was once Daunte made the now in famous Cycle of Pennies thread and shared his training and nutrition program.

Daunte came on the scene at a time when everyone was light weight and insane volume despite Dorian Yates & Ronnie Coleman doing the opposite and dominating all of Bodybuilding at the time. This breath of fresh air is incorporated into what I call the Advanced Greyskull Reset.

For this type of reset, a trainee would have already completed at least one of the traditional Greyskull resets. So how do we perform this advanced reset?

Imagine Johnny Joe Blow from above works his way back through the reset and stalls out again, this time at 215 lbs. Johnny has a choice, perform another traditional reset or he can remove bench from the program for now and replace it with one of its variants. In this case let’s say he chooses to sub in Incline Barbell press. Well Johnny would back the weight off quite a bit and restart blasting away on incline pushing the last set until failure every time. Let’s say he pushes the incline and gets all the way up to 225 before he stalls on this lift. Now he performs a traditional reset and blast away again getting all the way back up to 240 while destroying the log book along the way and packing on quite a bit of muscle. After he stalls at 240, Johnny decides he likes using the variants for now and chooses to use close grip bench for this run. Johnny again lowers the weight and blast away, working his way up to 225 on close grip, he performs the traditional resets and gets to 235 before stalling again.

Now Johnny decides he was to go back to his ole trustee the barbell flat bench press. But he hasn’t performed the lift in months and last time stalled out at 215. Do you really think that after improving his upper chest and triceps that he is going to stall out again on 215? frick no he won’t, hell he already blew past that with variants that are considered more difficult. Sure he will have to start at 10% less than his last stall, but on his way up he is going to absolutely destroy the log book and blow way past 215, prolly to up to something like 260 or 270 before stalling again.

Ladies and gentleman that is progress no matter how you look at it. What an idea, right? Understand that the lift itself could be a variable that can be adjusted and that adjusting the said variable would allow for continual progress with such a basic setup. This might not fit what the experts consider linear progression and that’s ok, but to Johnny pain and myself increasing at least one performance variable in one training with each training session is in fact linear progression.

If you think I am wrong and that Johnny Joe Blow would lose tons of strength, then go listen to Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell talk about squatting. His trainees rarely perform barbell squats outside of competitions, instead they focus on box squats, good mornings, speed squats etc. Are you going to tell me that it’s good enough for the best power lifters in the world, but not Johnny Joe Blow on tigerdroppings….bullshite? Daunte Trudal trains some of the most advanced bodybuilders in the world, including Dave Henry and many of his trainees are walking around with 225lbs or more of actual muscle mass. Daunte has all of his lifters replace stalled lifts with variants and has them continue on like nothing happened. So again are you telling me it’s good enough for the top and strongest bodybuilders in the world, but not good enough for Johnny Joe Blow on tigerdroppings because he read a book? If you believe this then you are beyond help.


Look no matter the program, all training is essentially linear progression, at least it should be if you want to make real progress over time. Sure it comes in different forms, but the bottom line is if you aren’t progressing in some way, then you are just moving backwards. There is no maintaining or standing still in this Game. There just isn’t, either you are getting better or you are getting worse.

If you take anything away from this article, take away the fact that you have to learn to think for yourself if you want to be injury free, strong and fit for life. You have to make the program work for you and your goals, not the goals of a damn program created by somebody that has never even spoken to you. This is not a blessing to go bastardize the GSLP but if you are an older lifter (older as in lots of time in the gym, not age); then sure feel free to blast away in higher rep ranges. Just blast away and get strong as shite in those rep ranges. Flat bench hurts your shoulder, well by all means, get you some plate mates for micro loading and get after it with the dumbbells. You gym only has a leg press and smith machine, well by god make that smith machine your bitch to were people in the gym no longer refer to it as the Smith machine but as your machine.

For the intermediate reset you have 3 things to consider when choosing which variant to sub in. Like I said above, you have to think and make the program work for your goals, not the goals of the program. You are going to have to have some self-awareness in choosing what is best for you. There is nothing wrong with having confidence, but we can all improve in some way and you need to figure out where it is you need or want to improve and address this when choosing a variant.




This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 11:37 pm
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