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re: Is Nikola Jokic the best passer in NBA history?
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:12 am to LSU82BILL
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:12 am to LSU82BILL
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Let me know next time Jokic makes a great pass in transition
Here is a 7 minute compilation of transition passes from last season. The first pass of that highlight reel is more impressive than any of those Bird gifs
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:14 am to LSU82BILL
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Let me know next time Jokic makes a great pass in transition
he might be the best court-length passer ever lol
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:21 am to Lester Earl
top ten nba passers to me
cousy
maravich
stockton
bird
jokic
magic
lebron
kidd
nash
paul
cousy
maravich
stockton
bird
jokic
magic
lebron
kidd
nash
paul
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:25 am to Lester Earl
I can't believe this entire thread only has a single mention of Luka but dudes like CWebb and White Chocolate are being brought up.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:32 am to PP7 for heisman
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Let me know next time Jokic makes a great pass in transition
quote:
Here is a 7 minute compilation of transition passes from last season.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:32 am to PP7 for heisman
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The first pass of that highlight reel is more impressive than any of those Bird gifs
A bounce pass to a guy that isn't even being defended?
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:03 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Is this a serious response? Weber was a good passing big, but Jokic is an all time passer, regardless of position. It's not even remotely close. Jokic has double Weber's assist total per 36. The NBA has averaged 23.75 assists per game during Jokic's career. It averaged 22.5 assists per game during Weber's career. Don't think that makes up for the discrepancy.
I mean just watch this career passing compilation from chris weber. That's a nice 4 minute video that includes a whole bunch of simple assists.
Now watch these 2023 passes from Jokic. He has one per night that's as good as Weber's all time best
Watch this compilation. He's Bird, Magic, and Jason Williams all in one. He's insane.
In 2024 the NBA has an average of 228 points every game
In Webber's prime it ranged from 183 to 195 a huge difference
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:12 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Jason Williams
the real best passer, and it's only by a hair over Pete Maravich...
as far as big men passers, Jokic is likely the best ever...
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:20 pm to LSU82BILL
quote:Yes, a one handed bounce pass from the other side of half court into the paint in between 2 defenders is more impressive than Bird making a no look pass or making a behind the back pass (both things that Jokic does at a hall of fame level.)
A bounce pass to a guy that isn't even being defended?
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:20 pm to LSU82BILL
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Let me know next time Jokic makes a great pass in transition
Sure thing. The Nuggets play next on May 4th. I guarantee you he will make some great transition passes then.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:24 pm to Frac the world
Jokic surpasses lebron with another ring to be honest. look at his supporting cast....lebron played with much better guys. had way more help
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:25 pm to LSU82BILL
That's my criticism of Stockton. Stuffing the stat sheet by handing the ball off to Mailman for dunks. Give me Isiah Lord Thomas III.
As far as bigs, wasn't Walton really good?
As far as bigs, wasn't Walton really good?
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:28 pm to Madking
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Magic played with 3-4 hall of famers on the same court.” When was this?
A good 15 years or so before you were born
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:31 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Him and Chris Webber are about equal.
prime Marc Gasol was pretty damn crafty as well
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:47 pm to Dairy Sanders
I’m almost 50, just forgot Cooper was a HOFer.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:58 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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yall just say anything. Bird and Magic played a decade together
And I watched that entire decade but neither of those guys was as consistently amazing with their passing as Luka and Jokic.
Luka and Jokic are easily on another level.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:06 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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In 2024 the NBA has an average of 228 points every game In Webber's prime it ranged from 183 to 195 a huge difference
Cool, but this is about passing/assists, not scoring. The league average in assists per game has gone up by 1-1.5 in that time.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:31 pm to Dairy Sanders
I think Kevin Love should get a mention purely because he does full court passes better than anyone I've seen.
But I think Jokic definitely has an argument for top 3 all-time with
I think Jason Williams had some great highlight reel passes, but I struggle to list him with the best because he threw a lot of dumb passes too.
I think Magic, LeBron, Stockton, Jokic, and Chris Paul are my top 5. With Nash, Big O, and Kidd right behind them.
But I think Jokic definitely has an argument for top 3 all-time with
I think Jason Williams had some great highlight reel passes, but I struggle to list him with the best because he threw a lot of dumb passes too.
I think Magic, LeBron, Stockton, Jokic, and Chris Paul are my top 5. With Nash, Big O, and Kidd right behind them.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's pretty easy to tell who actually watches the NBA in these threads.
Jokic is definitely in the conversation for best passers in history, and he's so far ahead of all other big men that any statement like "probably" or "likely" the best passer for a big is idiotic.
Jokic is definitely in the conversation for best passers in history, and he's so far ahead of all other big men that any statement like "probably" or "likely" the best passer for a big is idiotic.
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