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Kirans Podcast Maddison Brooks mom

Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:30 am
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
185 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:30 am
Kiran does a great job in her podcast with Maddison Brooks mom. It made me hurt for every parent who has a child between the ages of 18-21 at LSU. I guarantee you, that 90% of the people on this thread can relate to this in some way. Those young men, and I stress the term young, need to punished to the full extent of the law.
Posted by BRBaw
Member since Jan 2024
27 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:34 am to
Eh this case is probably going to get thrown out. I understand the parents grieving. But she definitely was a fault a little bit and the evidence does not help brooks case.

Downvote away it’s just the truth. The videos they have do not help her at all
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 5:43 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43238 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:36 am to
All you can do is hope your child makes responsible decisions when off to college
She made some very bad decisions and some bad people took advantage of her

It’s why you should always have friends with you to help you and make sure you get home safe after a night of drinking like that.
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
185 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:37 am to
She was at fault for drinking as an underage young lady, I agree; however, no one is ever at fault to conscent to sex with not one, but two men, in a truck with three others. This is the law. It is a sad case all around.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24710 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:42 am to
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Downvote away it’s just the truth. The videos they have do not help her at all


Not sure why this is being downvoted, but this is correct. The videos they have of her get the guys a much lesser charge if any at all.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51922 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:47 am to
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She was at fault for drinking as an underage young lady


That’s a hell of a thick layer of sugarcoating for “getting incoherently shitfaced drunk.”
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30916 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:00 am to
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But she definitely was a fault a little bit


Clarify what you mean. She has some fault for putting herself in the situation she was in. But that's it.

It does not excuse what those young men did nor does it mitigate it at all.

No more than leaving your car unlocked in your driveway or door unlocked on your home excuse or mitigate the actions of a thief.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30916 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:07 am to
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quote:

She was at fault for drinking as an underage young lady



That’s a hell of a thick layer of sugarcoating for “getting incoherently shitfaced drunk


It seems like a lot of people on this thread trying to sugarcoat having sex with an incoherently drunk woman.

She made a poor decision that college kids seem to make all the time. That is her fault. If she had gotten into a car and driven and killed someone, that would be her fault.

What happened to her was the result of bad decisions on her part AND criminal behavior on the part of those young men. Both can be true and one does not excuse the other.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
5355 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:13 am to
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Eh this case is probably going to get thrown out.


It won’t but if it does, the dad should hunt them down like rabid dogs.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11276 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:14 am to
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and one does not excuse the other


What if the young men were drunk too?
Posted by olegreg
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2009
611 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:22 am to
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Eh this case is probably going to get thrown out….But she definitely was a fault a little bit and the evidence does not help brooks case.


Different scenario:
So Person A decides to purchase weed from Person B. Unbeknownst to Person A, Person B plans to rob Person A with the help of Person C. During the transaction, Person C shoots and kills Person A. So Person A was “alittle bit at fault” due to involvement in a drug transaction for marijuana, and therefore it’s alright what happened. That’s what you’re saying.
Posted by olegreg
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2009
611 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:23 am to
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What if the young men were drunk too?


That’s a defense that would have to be put in front of the jury. There’s a lot of factors that would go into that type of defense.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 7:52 am
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
282 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:24 am to
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This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11276 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:29 am to
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But it’s an interesting thought experiment about what happens when someone is drunk.


exactly. Perhaps not so much in this situation, but in general. Both are shite faced drunk but the man goes down for rape charges.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62231 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:32 am to
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It seems like a lot of people on this thread trying to sugarcoat having sex with an incoherently drunk woman.


The surveillance video evidence shows a woman who could run across the street and cell phone video evidence shows a woman who was having conversations with the group inside the truck.

Does that fit your definition of “incoherently drunk”?
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
282 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:54 am to
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This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82442 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:58 am to
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to sex with not one, but two men, in a truck with three others.


Especially with that type.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 7:59 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99319 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:14 am to
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quote:
Downvote away it’s just the truth. The videos they have do not help her at all


Not sure why this is being downvoted, but this is correct. The videos they have of her get the guys a much lesser charge if any at all


"She was wearing a short skirt and revealing blouse Your Honor."

"Ah...well then she was asking for it. Case dismissed."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424128 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:23 am to
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"She was wearing a short skirt and revealing blouse Your Honor."

"Ah...well then she was asking for it. Case dismissed."

That isn't directly applicable, because your hypo involves an excuse of force, and force hasn't really been the allegation in this case.

This discussion is more about how the law (specifically criminal law) completely changes the culpability of drunk people somewhat at random.
Posted by Smoke239
Member since Jan 2024
121 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:17 am to
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Eh this case is probably going to get thrown out. I understand the parents grieving. But she definitely was a fault a little bit and the evidence does not help brooks case. Downvote away it’s just the truth. The videos they have do not help her at all


Those guys are all going to be doing life in Angola.
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