re: Why have churches started allowing gay preachers?

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Just curious do you not live in sin? Or does it only count if it’s that way?

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Being a sinner and living in sin are two separate things. Conviction over one's sin and the need and desire and steps to thwart off temptation is one sign of the Spirit. I can wholly see how someone living and proudly proclaiming their sin as their unique quality as being something that many believers would struggle with.

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It is not Christian anymore if they allow it. They are preaching politics and not from the Bible. They have created their own personal god that is ok with whatever sin they want. This is a false god and it states in the 10 commandments: thou shall have no other god before me.

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FIFY - I agree with your main point, but to be most correct falsies get the little g.

A church should not turn away any sinner. That church also should not tell the sinner living in the sin is ok. The sin can be forgiven and the price was already paid. However a part of the price is the acknowledgement that it was/is sin and to strive to abandon the sin because it is the ultimate barrier between the Creator and creation. All fall short, and all stumble, but continuing to seek gratification and good feelings from something that separates one from the Creator is not Christianity.

The same token the church is not called to be the Pharisees of the modern world, which is a struggle for a lot of them. The church is called to be a beacon for agape love in a world full of people in need of it. We are to love, and to apply that love reciprocated from the Creator and strive to walk closer for both receipt of His love as well as to be a brighter light.

Unfortunately too many churches today are one or the other. Either being led by false prophets or pharisees. That's not even counting the for profit "ministries".

So hard to see how church attendance is as low as it's ever been in this country./s

because they allow preachers who steal, diddle kids, cheat on spouses, or whatever. Also, the church apparently needs everyone they can get these days because their attendance numbers arent going up.

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It's all about money. Period.

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It it were about just money then you don’t do this to push out the majority of your older members (who also have the most to give).

This is an effort to destroy the church

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All are welcome in church…. But those in sin shouldn’t be in roles of leadership.

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but I’m told we’re all sinners? So which is it?

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This is an effort to destroy the church

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Jude 4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord

I wasn't implying that if that's how you took it. Just showing the anti-christ John spoke of has many faces. Not just the perverters of the truth, but also the higher than thous that both are a mockery of the Faith today.

Onan and his brother were not struck dead just because they pulled out. They were struck dead because they pulled out so they wouldn’t impregnate their dead brother’s wife. It was their job to be kinsman redeemers of their deceased brother’s line. The child they put in her would be considered her dead husband’s child, thus redeeming his family line and returning everyone’s inheritance back to a one third share. They were struck dead for being greedy because they didn’t want their inheritance divided 3 ways.

I mean, it’s not like God struck Ruth or her partner dead when she gave him a BJ.

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The money must flow, unabated.

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I think a lot of the more traditional churches that most my age grew up in such as baptists, Methodists, etc saw their membership numbers dwindle over the past 20-30 years. While this happened, they watched the new-age "non-denomination" churches and mega churches explode.

When I started dating my wife, she had been a member at a new school type church throughout her teens and I went woth her a few times. After the 3rd or 4th visit with her, I let her know that I did not agree with some of the stuff I saw there and would not be going back there and invited her to come to my small Baptist church with less than 120 active members. As OP stated: open gays attending and being welcomed, unwed parents everywhere, addicts everywhere, etc. The normal Sunday service felt more like a concert and revival every week. It's was just way too much for me. I'm not an extrovert at all so it was all just very uncomfortable for me. Not to mention the money that the church leadership threw around in what seemed like a wasteful manner to me.

So all of the more traditional churches and their leadership saw these places growing like crazy and figured they better adapt or fade to oblivion.