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Is this saying the vaxx reduces your chance of getting covid by 0.24%?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:08 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:08 am
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A study funded by Moderna tracked 705,756 people; half who took both Moderna shots; other group unvaccinated.
“During follow-up, COVID-19 infections occurred among 289 vaccinated patients and 1,144 unvaccinated patients.”
99.67% unvaccinated and 99.91% vaxxed had no COVID.
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Now imagine Moderna headlines that their study of 352K unvaccinated people found 99.6% had no COVID. Their stock price would crash so instead the study authors focus on the percent gap between the two categories among those who did have COVID. Note the red section
This whole thread is worth the time to read
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Moderna’s CEO said yesterday that two boosters may be needed against #Omicorn and Pfizer’s CEO said that annual shots may be needed against COVID-19. Whichever way you cut it, these vaccines hold for less time than advertised and for less variants too. Hence the ongoing shots.
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You KNOW that most who rushed to get a C19 vaccine did so with the illusion that it will set them free; not that there will need to be a booster after 6 months and now a second booster (as seen in the UK for immunocompromised which usually gets extended to everyone).
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The vaccine fanatics in government/policy circles and C19 vaccine salesmen on TV like Scott Gottlieb (Pfizer board member), don’t want to hear about better lifestyle choice; early care for COVID—19 or expended hosital capacity. It’s jab jab jab, and if the jabs work less than thought then jab more. Let me remind you AGAIN that lockdowns were sold to slow - NOT stop - the spread so that hospitals don’t get overwhelmed from a surge. The “flatten the curve” chart of March 2020 showed spreading out the hospitalizations over time; not stoping COVID.
Basically what he is saying is.....
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:12 am to stout
But muh symptoms. But muh slow the spread.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:14 am to stout
This is so embarrassing for the OT/Poli docs
No wonder tiguar banned himself
No wonder tiguar banned himself
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:15 am to stout
Yes but if you wear 2 masks, your chances are reduced another .06%. That's .30% more protection. YUGE. GAME CHANGER.
So it's totally worth all the unknown risks from the vax to double mask and get all the boosters for a disease you have a 99.6% percent chance of surviving.
So it's totally worth all the unknown risks from the vax to double mask and get all the boosters for a disease you have a 99.6% percent chance of surviving.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:18 am to stout
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The “flatten the curve” chart of March 2020 showed spreading out the hospitalizations over time; not stoping COVID.
Yes, this seems to have been forgotten. The areas under both the flattened curve and the “we’re all going to die!” curve are the same.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:35 am to stout
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Is this saying the vaxx reduces your chance of getting covid by 0.24%?
That's impressive
Their study has 4% of vaccinated who catch it needing hospitalization, while 15% who did not vaccinate needed a stay. That is significantly above the actual hospitalization rate by independent data, which stands at 1-5%, equal to the rate Moderna showed for it's vaccine.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:37 am to SDVTiger
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No wonder tiguar banned himself
I really hope this is the case and he is not suffering from vaxx clotting issues.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:37 am to Vols&Shaft83
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YUGE. GAME CHANGER.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:46 am to stout
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A study funded by Moderna tracked 705,756 people; half who took both Moderna shots; other group unvaccinated.
“During follow-up, COVID-19 infections occurred among 289 vaccinated patients and 1,144 unvaccinated patients.”
99.67% unvaccinated and 99.91% vaxxed had no COVID.
Those numbers do not add up, but it is proof once again that you have more than a 99% chance of not getting sick even if you aren't vaccinated.
Remind me again why people are panicked by this?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:50 am to stout
Is this when they call it Trump’s vaccine?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:54 am to cokebottleag
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Their study has 4% of vaccinated who catch it needing hospitalization, while 15% who did not vaccinate needed a stay. That is significantly above the actual hospitalization rate by independent data, which stands at 1-5%, equal to the rate Moderna showed for it's vaccine.
Welcome to the world of fudging numbers in Pharma studies.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:59 am to stout
It's like we are caught in a tidal wave of stupidity that we can't get out of.
We've gone from "We should create a vaccine to save lives" to "Nobody is allowed to be sick ever again" in short order.
Hell, the UK Minister of Health gave an official statement on a FOURTH dose, suggesting that the increment between boosters be moved from 6 months to 3 months.
Society is the proverbial frog in the pot of hot water
We've gone from "We should create a vaccine to save lives" to "Nobody is allowed to be sick ever again" in short order.
Hell, the UK Minister of Health gave an official statement on a FOURTH dose, suggesting that the increment between boosters be moved from 6 months to 3 months.
Society is the proverbial frog in the pot of hot water
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:00 am to stout
This is all pre-delta and those numbers won't hold up that high in a world of 99+% delta, but look at that bullet point below the red box. There's where the public health benefit is.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:06 am to TigerDoc
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This is all pre-delta and those numbers won't hold up that high in a world of 99+% delta, but look at that bullet point below the red box. There's where the public health benefit is.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:07 am to TigerDoc
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This is all pre-delta
you mean Pre-Biden?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:12 am to TigerDoc
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This is all pre-delta and those numbers won't hold up that high in a world of 99+% delta, but look at that bullet point below the red box. There's where the public health benefit is.
:lol: :lol:Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:25 am to TigerDoc
See my reply a few posts up.
Moderna's data is either dishonest, skewed, or both. It doesn't hold up to the actual independent data. It essentially shows no benefit at all.
Moderna's data is either dishonest, skewed, or both. It doesn't hold up to the actual independent data. It essentially shows no benefit at all.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:37 am to stout
No. It's saying that it reduces your chances of being infected by 74.74%.
That's 100*(1144-289)/1144 stated as a percentage.
That's 100*(1144-289)/1144 stated as a percentage.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:46 am to TigerDoc
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but look at that bullet point below the red box. There's where the public health benefit is.
You have to be trolling here. The difference between those infinitesimal numbers is hardly worth all of this. These results just reinforce that it was never worth all of this.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:50 am to stout
Umm...no. It means that you are 3.7 times more likely to get it if you are not vaccinated.
0.09% chance if you are vaccinated, while 0.33% chance if you are not vaccinated, but sure, your math and statistic skills are on point.
0.09% chance if you are vaccinated, while 0.33% chance if you are not vaccinated, but sure, your math and statistic skills are on point.
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