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Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:39 pm to mdomingue
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A lot of guys would simply match colors without regard for terminating the pairs properly
Step 1), strip off 12” of sheathing
Step 2) straighten out those annoyingly twisted wires so you can see them
Step 3) don’t waste any of that thin wire. Move to the end of the straightened foot of tiny wires and punch down in order.
- those guys, usually
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:16 pm to Hopeful Doc
Oh no, Doc. Not at all right. You are asking for crosstalk and next issues.
Always leave as much twist as possible and never more than than 3/8" or so untwisted. If you're doing an RJ45 then yes you expose more wire to push into the connector but do not strip 1' of the sheathing off. Maybe 3" or so. The end of the sheathing should be able to be pushed into the exposed end of the RJ45 connector.
For a punchdown on a patch panel strip about 3/4" of the sheathing off at most. Then be sure that no more than 3/8" of the cables are untwisted.
Always leave as much twist as possible and never more than than 3/8" or so untwisted. If you're doing an RJ45 then yes you expose more wire to push into the connector but do not strip 1' of the sheathing off. Maybe 3" or so. The end of the sheathing should be able to be pushed into the exposed end of the RJ45 connector.
For a punchdown on a patch panel strip about 3/4" of the sheathing off at most. Then be sure that no more than 3/8" of the cables are untwisted.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:33 pm to mdomingue
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A lot of guys would simply match colors without regard for terminating the pairs properly.
The only place I'm terminating rj45 is my own home and this is exactly what I'm doing
Why I pay the big bucks to get people like VA to do the work for our company
Posted on 5/2/24 at 5:25 pm to VABuckeye
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Oh no, Doc. Not at all right. You are asking for crosstalk and next issues.
Sorry, the “-those guys, usually” was meant to represent the state of the jacks I’ve seen in the walls done by other people and poke fun at them.
…I leave mine tightly bound. Sometimes when I want to spare my fingers I’ll undo a whole 1.5” from the end, then punch close to the coil and trim the excess.
But i am also a dumbass who retrofitted Cat6A through most of his house (though I didn’t buy shielded cable).
Posted on 5/2/24 at 6:03 pm to Hopeful Doc
Nothing wrong with CAT6 but anything more is overkill.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:55 am to VABuckeye
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Nothing wrong with CAT6 but anything more is overkill.
i dont disagree, but cat6 is the same price (or more expensive!) than cat8 at amazon and monoprice.
why would you go out of your way to look for cat6?
am i missing something?
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:20 am to CAD703X
I don't think cat7 or cat8 are officially recognized standards. I may be wrong, but I think that means these companies can get away with using these terms for marketing without the cables actually being made to some higher specs or standards.
Also watch out for CCA (copper-clad aluminum) conductors. If it seems like a cable "should" cost more but doesn't, there is usually a good chance you are missing something.
Also watch out for CCA (copper-clad aluminum) conductors. If it seems like a cable "should" cost more but doesn't, there is usually a good chance you are missing something.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:44 am to Korkstand
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I don't think cat7 or cat8 are officially recognized standards. I may be wrong, but I think that means these companies can get away with using these terms for marketing without the cables actually being made to some higher specs or standards.
that and the general way they eliiminate crosstalk is having more twists per foot of cable which leads to a thicker cable.
you could run 12 Cat5e in a 1" hole in the top plate vs 4 Cat6a also
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:17 am to Korkstand
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I don't think cat7 or cat8 are officially recognized standards.
Nope. I've been in the cabling business close to 20 years, 6A is the highest recognized standard we use as of now. These are getting better with companies such as General Cable and Commscope coming out with small diameter versions as well as slowly increasing 10 Gig distance.
I think Corning has a Cat 7/7A certified offering but I have heard there are challenges using it.
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:11 am to VABuckeye
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You realize that I owned a company that pulled copper and fiber for 23 years right? I've pulled cable in places you couldn't imagine pulling cable.
I did marine and offshore years ago and am still triggered when I hear "Rox Block".
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:12 am to Twincam
Yep, and if distance is a concern people should look into Paige Electric Gamechanger cable. 600' at 1G speed.
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:44 am to VABuckeye
Do you have experience with the Gamechanger cable?
I looked into it for a camera job at work. Their website is sketchy with conflating Gb and GB. Also not sure how just going to 22 gauge compared to typical 23 gauge does anything.
I looked into it for a camera job at work. Their website is sketchy with conflating Gb and GB. Also not sure how just going to 22 gauge compared to typical 23 gauge does anything.
Posted on 5/4/24 at 9:18 am to mchias1
We use it for long hi-res camera runs and it works great. I'd much rather use GC cable than have to put in an extra JB for passive extenders that have to be extreme weather spec'd and then tend to fail anyway over time.
Posted on 5/4/24 at 12:24 pm to VABuckeye
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Paige Electric
I talked to these guys at BICSI, haven't priced them out yet. They make some interesting stuff for sure, as well as some bold claims
If it tests, it tests. Posted on 5/4/24 at 1:07 pm to Twincam
Our cost is .68 a foot through a distributor. It does test but obviously you can't do a full certification because of the length. Or so it would seem.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:26 am to CAD703X
Ring wireless not an option?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:51 am to Gee Grenouille
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Ring wireless not an option?
I have a box full of Alexa and Google crap.
I decided I wanted to ditch reliance on the tech companies this time around and keep everything local.
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