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Marshhen
| Favorite team: | Columbia  |
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| Registered on: | 11/14/2018 |
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re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 5:55 pm
[quote]You obviously have some knowledge on the situation but nearly everything you’ve posted in this thread has an angle. If ManInStadium is “religious” to the diversion - then you are also “religious” to dredging, or at least some part of the dredging process.[/quote]
I really don’t have an a...
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re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 4:54 pm
[quote]Same could be said for the engineers and scientists that have designed the diversion project.[/quote]
Absolutely. They hired some of the best engineers and scientists. I think much of the work is done well; however, it doesn’t change the fact that the price has skyrocketed past the poin...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 4:16 pm
You just named three projects that couldn’t be more different than the point in case. I sincerely hope you just googled that and are in no way associated with coastal restoration because you sound like one of those “trust the science” zealots. The diversion is a religion to you, and anyone who do...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 3:14 pm
[quote]Maybe 50k/acre is a pure line item in a bid tab on $/CY basis, but once you add in all of the entirely necessary ancillary line items like the permitting and land rights and geotech and surveying it is never 50k/acre except in the smallest of projects[/quote]
Just an FYI, since you think ...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 3:07 pm
[quote]So that narrows you down to someone who works for either: 1) a private dredge contractor, who would stand to benefit most from redirected funds from diversions, or 2) MVN navigation ops, and the USACE is has proven they really know how to run a delta over the longterm [/quote]
Wrong ...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:51 pm
Haha!...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:45 pm
[quote]You may use a general $/acre but that is not an accurate measure of dredging. You can disagree with me all you want, but the questions above all boil down to volume. A dredger is going to quote you based on the volume of the dredge. The state may track it by acre but that doesn't accurately t...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:41 pm
[quote]Plus, have you looked at a bid tab or engineer's estimate for dredging lately?[/quote]
Well, I have developed 10 formal bids for dredging projects in the past 6 months. Yes, they are high but it still doesn’t change the fact that it takes anywhere from 5,000-6,000 cubic yards to restore ...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:26 pm
[quote]Again, acreage means nothing without volume. And depending on the area, and the soundings in that area, that volume will differ. That is the EXACT REASON why contractor bid it by volume. Which is why using $/acre in planning is not an accurate measure if you are not accounting for the volume....
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:11 pm
[quote]Dredging is measured by the cubic yard. Your assumption of "$50k/acre" means nothing if depth isn't considered. You add depth to area and you get....VOLUME. So, what depth is your $50k/acre based on? 5, 10, 20 feet? There is a big difference. So blatantly stating "per acre" is a poor measure ...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:03 pm
[quote]Or, after 1 big hurricane.[/quote]
Does the land built by the diversion magically survive hurricanes??...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 2:02 pm
[quote]The first one, is dredging is a measure of volume not area. [/quote]
Dredging is not a measure of anything bro. It’s an act of moving material from one place to another. Construction contracts use CY for measurements of material. In coastal restoration, the units are typically in $/ac...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 1:59 pm
[quote]cash another one.[/quote]
Que?...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 1:57 pm
[quote] EVERYTHING you have posted has is based on assumption that mostly can be proven wrong.[/quote]
Go ahead, bud. Prove me wrong. ...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 1:56 pm
[quote]The key with the diversions is to rebuild land over time, year after year. After the initial major expense of building a structure that mimics the old river flooding, there is minor costs associated with maintenance unlike the yearly costs associated with dredging. [/quote]
I have heard ...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 1:52 pm
[quote]Do you know the actual reduction or you just playing bullshite games to sound smart?[/quote]
I know the number exactly…it’s 0.0...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 1:50 pm
[quote]you have bigger ASSumptions than a group of fatties at the buffet line.[/quote]
WTH are you babbling about?...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 1:48 pm
[quote]Well, the math states that dredging is quantified by cubic yard, not area. You also are not elaborating on what sort of dredging method are you using? Hydraulic or mechanical? Not to mention a myriad of other factors.[/quote]
Tell me you don’t understand what you’re talking about without t...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 12:20 pm
[quote]The Atchafalaya River and Mardis Gras Pass say hello. But let’s not bring actual anecdotes into this argument.[/quote]
How much storm surge do these two areas reduce for population centers?...
re: Cancellation of Mid-Barataria Diversion project could cost Louisiana at least $700 million
Posted by Marshhen on 5/10/24 at 12:18 pm
[quote]Was dredging one of the things that the fed/BP dollars would pay for? For some reason I thought that the dredging money had to go to barrier islands and not the bay that far up the river, but I could be mistaken on that.[/quote]
Various pots of money with strings attached. When the BP se...
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