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re: Jalen Hurts 1st half vs 2nd half stats so far this season are worth taking a look at
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They lucked into a cheap, serviceable QB. What "model" ?
They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability. Almost everything they do is designed to generate offense without hurts having to actually read coverages and go through multiple passing reads.
These don’t work consistently in the NFL because coordinators are too good, defenses are too fast and eventually they figure out which players on a given play actually have any chance of getting the ball and eat it up. Every year one or two teams with enough talent to spam them get away with it for a while but it never leads to meaningful success. The closest anyone ever got was the 2012 49ers, largely because it was more new and unique at the time.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 9:12 pm
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
They've got possibly the best WR duo in the league and a top 5 TE. Sanders is a good back and they have a great OL. The offense is tough to stop even if DCs "figure it out"
They're def a contender in a weak NFC this year.
They're def a contender in a weak NFC this year.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
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They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability.
How many reads do you want him to make? He's not doing the Rodgers/Brady pre snap master class, but few young QBs are.
There are a lot of shitty QBs in the NFL but Hurts isn't one of them right now. Not sure what you're getting at.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:42 am to Roger Klarvin
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They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball.
Calm down Vince Lombardi. People haven’t stopped Lamar and he’s been running the exact offense for 4 years. You’re vastly overestimating how good NFL DCs are.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:28 am to Roger Klarvin
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They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability. Almost everything they do is designed to generate offense without hurts having to actually read coverages and go through multiple passing reads.
Yeah I said he was serviceable, not great. Everyone knows Hurts is flawed. He's OK and can win games but he's super cheap right now.
If they pay him $30M/year? Yeah bad move. But they're not doing that now and it doesn't seem they intend to.
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Every year one or two teams with enough talent to spam them get away with it for a while but it never leads to meaningful success.
Yeah cool. What would be their alternative plan this offseason? Get Carson Wentz back? Or Baker? Or Jameis?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:48 am to Roger Klarvin
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They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability. Almost everything they do is designed to generate offense without hurts having to actually read coverages and go through multiple passing reads.
Correct, Hurts is a one read and run guy, always has been. And he's a very good runner, but he's improved his throwing accuracy.
I still don't think it's a model for championship success but it sure gives defensive coordinators sleepless nights worrying about him taking off all the time and gashing your defense.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:10 am to Roger Klarvin
Your premise is that the Eagles' plan is simple to defend, but yet it takes top football minds 30 minutes of football and getting stomped to be able to figure out how to defend it. Sure thing, bud.
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