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re: What are the main reasons to buy an EV?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:44 am to Clames
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:44 am to Clames
quote:They are a reality now. What do you think will cause them to no longer exist?
The hilarious optimism of imbeciles like you imagining micro-grids will a) be a realty in the next several decades
quote:We will have large utility power generation for at least the next 100 years. Micro-grids will also continue to become more common during this same time. What part of this do you struggle with?
and b) ever supplant the need for large utility power generation is laughable.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:45 am to Tempratt
Yeah, no reason this can be limited to EVs. Gov can take over anything with internet connection and a computer
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:46 am to GumboPot
Please, bro, buy a Rivian, bro. I need the stock to go up, bro. Please bro, you dont understand
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:46 am to Tempratt
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Don't laugh; it's plausible.
It's not only plausible, it's already being done. Go get in a police chase with an OnStar equipped vehicle and see how quickly they shut that fricker off.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:47 am to SuperSaint
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do you inbreds believe this?
Know.
Drug riddled ex-cons shouldn't throw stones.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:07 pm to Blutarsky
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It was a cross country trip where I was moving everything post US Navy; including my vehicle.
Oh so this whole scenario was about a one time move across the country?
Lmao.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:13 pm to Korkstand
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They are a reality now. What do you think will cause them to no longer exist?
I didn't say or imply they would cease to exist, they simply will never gain the level of adoption you imagine. That isn't realistic. Why are you such a dishonest shite bag when it comes to following what people actually state and in the proper context given?
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We will have large utility power generation for at least the next 100 years.
More like next 1000 years, especially if we achieve any type of fusion-based power generation.
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Micro-grids will also continue to become more common during this same time. What part of this do you struggle with?
I don't struggle with anything here, you are the one that struggles to understand the fundamentals concepts underpinning the issues here. Widespread adoption of solar-based micro-grid will never replace utility-scale generation, there is simply not enough available solar energy to do so. Battery technology is decades if not centuries away from what is needed and societal demands for ever increasing electricity outstrips gains in efficiency of electrical devices. Building a hodge podge of solar farms isn't sustainable, bolting hundreds of square feet of solar panels to everyone’s roof isn't sustainable or practical either.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:14 pm to GumboPot
To shame your neighbors for destroying the planet.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:15 pm to GumboPot
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Electricity cheaper than gas?
Yes
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Gonna save the planet from climate change?
No
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Sick of going to the gas station?
Yes
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Better commuter vehicle than gas powered?
Depends on your commute
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Low maintenance?
In theory yes. A lot fewer moving parts
Another main reason would obviously be performance which is not something I care about. I'm not trying to drag race people
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:26 pm to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Once the issues of child and slave labor are addressed, cheap fuel may not exist.
Funny how nobody has cared about this for decades until it showed up on JRE and now they care since it can be weaponized to push back against something people disagree with. They were perfectly fine using their phones and cordless drills before this.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:27 pm to ABucks11
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Same reason people are buying battery lawn equipment. Easier to use and less maintenance if you have a small yard.
EVs make sense if you don’t drive far.
Who are the 8 people who downvote this? This is logic.
Me from 1990-2019
- Worked 3 days a week in town and 2 days a week about 210 miles round trip to another town. I was putting 25,000 miles a year on my vehicle.
- Loved in a large home with a yard that took me 90 mins to mow and had to empty my mower bag 3-4 times.
You could not have given me an EV or any electric yard equipment. It would be stupid.
Me from 2019-now:
- work 8 miles from home only 4 days per week.
- have a downsized home with a front yard that is about 400 square feet and no back yard (all natural trees).
I drive an EV and have all electric yard equipment that collapses and hangs on the wall in my small garage.
This debate is stupid between me and you. It would be like me in 2023 arguing with me in 2010.
The only problem is the government trying to force it on people and calling it “better”. It’s not better. It’s for a different buyer and different purpose.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Oh so this whole scenario was about a one time move across the country?
It was done.
Now, imagine a group going on a long-assed road trip with multiple people.
Which would be faster? EV of ICE?
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:34 pm to GumboPot
I’m more interested in the new electric trucks (Rivian, f-150, Canoo) I don’t have anything to haul, so don’t care about payload. Like the idea of a “frunk”. I would seriously consider a electric truck once Toyota produces one.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:40 pm to Blutarsky
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Now, imagine a group going on a long-assed road trip with multiple people.
If the time you save on that one rare scenario is worth it to you then high five. But you spend more time screwing with refueling than EVs. If you want to be efficient with your time and your not a hotshot driver, the EV wins.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:42 pm to Blutarsky
I’m getting mine in the next month or so and for me it boiled down to cost. My current car is appproaching 10 years old and it was time to find a replacement.
1) Gas prices in California can get ridiculously high, I have a short commute, but spending over $7.00 for a gallon of gas makes any EV feel more reasonable and feels worse on a road trip
2) Other costs of vehicle ownership in California (inspections, registration, maintenance) is just high, such as $95 for a full-synthetic oil change
3) Free EV charging at work, free EV charging at Electrify America stations for 2 years on roadtrips
4) No more Catalytic Converter thefts
I’m absolutely not in the camp where everyone should get an EV, but it made sense in my situation (especially when I ordered it last summer)
1) Gas prices in California can get ridiculously high, I have a short commute, but spending over $7.00 for a gallon of gas makes any EV feel more reasonable and feels worse on a road trip
2) Other costs of vehicle ownership in California (inspections, registration, maintenance) is just high, such as $95 for a full-synthetic oil change
3) Free EV charging at work, free EV charging at Electrify America stations for 2 years on roadtrips
4) No more Catalytic Converter thefts
I’m absolutely not in the camp where everyone should get an EV, but it made sense in my situation (especially when I ordered it last summer)
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:43 pm to Hopeful Doc
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If there were a $25,000, 200-250 (actual, not estimated) range vehicle with bare minimum amenities (cruise, +/- adaptive cruise but likely without it, Bluetooth/line in sound, some form of “standardized” cell that is user swappable in the future), I would heavily consider one as an additional vehicle, but I wouldn’t replace one with it.
I think this catches most people. This would have to be an additional vehicle. While an EV might serve the primary need of most individuals, it can't do all that is needed. Not that many people have a second vehicle just for commuting. The average family with a few vehicles could probably use one, but the prices aren't cheap enough to justify.
Another thing that isn't mentioned often is the additional cost in insurance of an EV.
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