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re: 100% Of Kids 14-16 w/Vaccine Induced Myocarditis Had Damaged Hearts at 3-6 month Follow Up

Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:55 am to
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3709 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:55 am to
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“My wife’s friend is a nurse practitioner and they all got fed misinformation”.

That’s true but too many were too frickin lazy to do any independent research.
I know a NP that had recently gotten her Doctorate,previously had her Masters.

Covid came up,I told her my experience,got sick and tested positive.Took ivermectin and was over it within 24 hrs,did the same thing with a grandson.

She was appalled,”YOU TOOK DOG MEDICINE”.conversation continued,She did not know there were any human uses for ivermectin.She was fascinated to learn it was used in Africa to prevent river blindness and elephantiasis,also in this country for scabies,head lice and rosecea.
She really had no idea.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:39 pm to
If you get myocarditis you have heart damage, because the heart doesn't repair itself. This is an evolutionary safeguard against heart cancer.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22393 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:49 pm to
Dude I’m just saying the powers that be who required people to have to make these decisions are truly to blame. I’m NOT going to shame a parent on this bc they NEVER should’ve been put in that situation in the 1st place.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21814 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Important to note:

quote:
the risk of myocarditis from mRNA vaccination was found to be 1/2000-1/3000


So, far more likely than a 14-16 year old is to die from Covid...

Also, yeah, that'd only pan out to be thousands across America had you branch Covidians had your way...
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8224 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:12 pm to
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Dude I’m just saying the powers that be who required people to have to make these decisions are truly to blame. I’m NOT going to shame a parent on this bc they NEVER should’ve been put in that situation in the 1st place.

I’m not shaming parents for being put in that situation. I was one of those parents bc at the time mine were 17, 19, & 21.

But parents are 100% to blame for allowing their children to get a social experiment injection bc they knew there wasn’t any long term data. Many parents say they’ll die to protect their children but millions didn’t even put up a fight to protect them and err on the side of being cautious.
Posted by LSUfor8
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
324 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:15 pm to
You might want to reassess your thinking a bit. The background risk of myocarditis in the general population is 10-20/100,000, or .0001-.0002. In this study, the risk was 1/2000-1/3000, or .0003-.0005. That’s a 1.5-5 fold increase over the general population.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34518 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:48 pm to
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Yeah, it's more than that. But whatever the number, it's also far less than warranted.


To my knowledge, none of the studies have gone past 60 days when looking at Myocarditis as a potential side effect. I’m sure I’m mistaken, but I truly don’t recall seeing any.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124234 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:02 pm to
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the heart doesn't repair itself.
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:16 pm to
Thing is, heart muscle tissue never repairs. Once it is rendered useless by damage, it does not work normally again. This is also the reason you don't see heart cancer. You can manage to improve upon whats left of the heart tissue by exercising, but it will never be as good as it was.

Anyway, I'm pretty certain that a much larger number of people have suffered heart damage, but they are sedentary enough not to notice. People that are highly active and rely on the heart to perform at its max are going to be the first that see physical manifestations (or death). Therefore, I believe there are many that have suffered significant heart damage yet have not considered anything wrong with them because they are so far symptomless.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19775 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:28 pm to

Normally healthy kids, young people and anyone not in a clear high risk group should not have taken those mRNA shots.

quote:

Total population of US: 334,155,000

This is for all kids, healthy or not.

CDC data:

Ages 0 - 4 had 93 deaths attributed to covid in 2 years in a population of 19,300,000 million
That's 1 death out of 2,075,269 people.
93 is 0.00048% of 19300000


Ages 5 - 14 had 244 deaths attributed to covid in 2 years in a population of 41,350,000 million
That's 1 death out of 169,467 people
244 is 0.00059% of 41,350,000


Ages 0 - 17 had 795 deaths attributed to covid in 2 years
That's 1 death out of 92,465 people
795 is 0.00108% 73,510,000 people.

For context, the chances of being struck by lightning is about 1/250,000 in a 2 year period.


LINK /

Persons under 5 years are about 6% of our population. 19,300,000 million
Persons between the ages of 5 and 14 are 41,350,000 million
Persons under 18 years are about 22% of our population 73,510,000 million


Ages 0-4: 1 death out of 2,075,269 people.

Ages 5-14: 1 death out of 169,467 people.

Ages 0-17: 1 death out of 92,465 people.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124234 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:31 pm to
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none of the studies have gone past 60 days when looking at Myocarditis as a potential side effect.
That actually not unreasonable. Post-vax myocarditis occurs proximate to its nidus (either infection or vaccination). IMO 30-days is probably a sufficient span. 60-days is out there.

Now, if we're talking post-myocarditis outcome, the timeframe would need be far longer.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:16 pm to
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00% Of Kids 14-16 w/Vaccine Induced Myocarditis Had Damaged Hearts


You realize this statement reads

"Kids with heart damage, have heart damage"

Right?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111640 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Posting blind links to malware infested blogs about covid vaccines has become a staple of this board


Impressive that you can still post here.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111640 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:24 pm to
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You realize this statement reads "Kids with heart damage, have heart damage" Right?


You should probably not attempt a post in this thread subsequent to this post.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:25 pm to
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You should probably not attempt a post in this thread subsequent to this post.


The thread clearly doesn't need to exist, so I don't see what harm I could possibly do.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111640 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:33 pm to
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The thread clearly doesn't need to exist, so I don't see what harm I could possibly do.


You’re not going to harm anything. I’m also not sure you can look more stupid. So I retract my previous post. Continue to post apace.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:35 pm to
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You’re not going to harm anything.


You had me worried for a second!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162264 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Their doctors were pushing it as safe and required

If their personal doctor recommended it that's one thing
quote:

Their social media was pushing it as safe and required.

And anyone that pays attention to that is a shite parent and a complete moron. That would be akin to taking medical advice from here.
quote:

Their schools in many cases were pushing it as safe and in some cases required for on premise schooling.

The percentage of parents willing to stand their ground in the face of that kind of pressure is pretty small.




If you can't stand your ground for the health and well being of your kids then...you're a shitty parent

quote:

agree that children NEVER should've received the shot and was telling anyone who would listen the same at great personal relationship cost in many cases, but expecting to swim against that current is tough.

Seems like the data was always pretty clear on this. There was never a reason for your average healthy child or teenager to get the shot. There may be some people with pre existing conditions that could have benefitted but that's something you discuss with your doctor.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:32 pm to
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That actually not unreasonable.


It is when you come back afterwards to get booster 1,2,3,4... And each booster can cause adverse events.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5099 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:42 pm to
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the risk of myocarditis from mRNA vaccination was found to be 1/2000-1/3000


I dont think that is the gotcha you think it is.
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