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re: how to cool water temps without a chiller?

Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:46 am to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15074 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:46 am to
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I simply changed the timer on the pool to run overnight from 6:45pm to 6:45am


Are you talking about your pump or a fountain?
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1872 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:49 am to
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I simply changed the timer on the pool to run overnight from 6:45pm to 6:45am
(unless we are in the pool during the day) and my temps have been 87-88 in the mornings as oppposed to prior 91-92 deg.


Thats what i did, pump runs from 8 at night to noon. we also added the pvc sprinklers to the returns. it works awesome. the water fall wall we have doesnt cool it like those. we were 92-94 and now it stays 88-90, last night got down to 85
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
1748 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Are you talking about your pump or a fountain?


both.
I have a 24" sheer descent and 2 spouts in a water feature. (not a fine spray or mist like those are talking about with the DIY sprayers, etc). but it still must be doing something.
so my pool pump on overnight circulating the water and the water feature on as well
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15074 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:59 am to
quote:

so my pool pump on overnight circulating the water and the water feature on as well



Thanks. I have always had my pump running, but I will start running my features at night too and see how it goes.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5437 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Update...

I simply changed the timer on the pool to run overnight from 6:45pm to 6:45am
(unless we are in the pool during the day) and my temps have been 87-88 in the mornings as oppposed to prior 91-92 deg.

Its been enough of a difference to notice when using the pool for sure.

Heavy rain downpour yesterday eve and overnight and this am pool water temp was 86.

Ill take it.



This sounds similar to my results. Triangle shade + 1 return sprayer. My pool hasn't cracked 90F so far. My buddy at work who lives within a mile and similar pool without cooling measures said his water has been 94F all summer.

Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26515 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:38 am to
So run the pump at night and not during the day?
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
1748 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:40 am to
quote:

So run the pump at night and not during the day?


that's what I've been doing (unless we are in the pool during the day of course)

theory is to run it when the air temp is below the water temp. wont be drastic, but anything helps
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5437 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

that's what I've been doing (unless we are in the pool during the day of course)

theory is to run it when the air temp is below the water temp. wont be drastic, but anything helps


If you have a salt water pool, running at night is better for chlorine generation since you are not fighting the sun's UV rays that zap your chlorine.

Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31815 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:49 am to
I used to tell anyone in designed pools for that the heater/cooler is worth the initial investment if you use your pool enough
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
677 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:10 am to
I just order a rectangular sail shade that should cover 1/2 the pool. I’ll need to install two post on one side of my pool. How much tension do these require? I’m hoping I can attach taller metal post to my wood fence post for this.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13964 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:25 am to
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I also installed a large triangle sunshade that covers up to 1/4 of the pool in the absolute heat of the day.


Came here to post this. Get the big triangle sun shade (quality one that won't rot), install some screw eyes (can paint if you have to put on a structure), and 3 carabiners and hook that thing up in the Summer strategically to block sun during hottest parts of the day. If there isn't anything to hook the triangle to around the pool, get a huge cantilever offset umbrella.

We did this at our old house (triangle) and it made a noticeable difference in the pool temp. 3-4 degrees.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13964 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:26 am to
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How much tension do these require?


You want a lot of tension. Slack makes it a sail in the wind that whips around a good bit. We used small ratchet straps and carabiners and it worked great.
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
951 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 10:05 pm to
We have a 30k glacier chiller that I panic bought at the end of pool construction. Days after we filled in early May the water was already near 90 degrees. We already had a gas heater purchased and installed so a combo wasn’t really an option. So far very pleased with the chiller. Not exactly sure about electricity costs bc when it’s time to chill the pool then it’s usually time to aerate the pond in our yard and run the AC what seems like 24 hours a day. The unit ran about 2800 last year plus 400 install. Which not exactly pleased with the way it was plumbed. Rest of pool is fully auto but this couldn’t be worked in. Also something is screwy and pool doesn’t circulate as well when it’s running. So bugs etc can accumulate. I run robot to compensate. It’s very effective temp wise though. We have NO SHADE until 5-6 pm. Water temps earlier this week when it was off were 94. Ran chiller from evening until am and woke up to 84 ish. It’ll pop up to 86/87 max during the day while running.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15045 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 8:22 am to
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I got bored one day and did the math to figure out how much ice you'd have to add to the pool to reduce the temperature and it turned out to be an insane amount of ice.



As a teenager, we bought 300lbs of ice to toss in a 7-lane, 25y pool.


Didn’t budge from 88F.


Adult me laughs after learning several chemistry/physics concepts. But we had a pretty fun time back then.
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 6:28 am to
With overnight air temperature dropping to 73°, my pool temperature was 82° this morning running those two aerators overnight at 2800 RPMs
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1840 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 9:11 pm to
One thing that helps mine is to turn off the auto fill. Let the evaporation take a bit out of the pool and fill it up with a hose prior to weekend swimming.
Posted by Tigerbait1233
Member since Jun 2016
37 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 4:58 am to
I have about same size pool, what chiller did you go with?
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8868 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:32 am to
I've got two fountains on mine and run my pump at night and my pool water is still right at 90. It feels good though with the weather we currently have. Without the fountains, I bet it would be about 95. My pool gets full sun from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28787 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Return Jet fountain sprayer/aerater thing.

Should be good for around 5-8 degree difference in my experience, which isn’t bad.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57502 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:40 pm to
I built my own chiller.
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