I’m not a denier but I have yet to hear anyone explain how Joe Biden received 81 million votes. 11 million MORE votes than Obama who had a flawless presidential campaign.

But Biden beat that by 15%? Wow. What an amazing representative of our country!!!!!!

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Posted by Figgy

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Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:42 pm to Purple Spoon

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I’m not a denier but I have yet to hear anyone explain how Joe Biden received 81 million votes. 11 million MORE votes than Obama who had a flawless presidential campaign.

I'm not going to try and tell anyone that there wasn't cheating. Because there was, is and will be. Voter rolls not being kept up-to-date and mass mailing of ballots to every registered voter enables widespread cheating. You also have a new generation of voters that are extraordinarily liberal and they're just beginning to flex their voting muscle.

This board is a bubble. A lot of posters here simply don't realize just how deeply hated Trump is across much of the country. During his term he did a couple things to his benefit and detriment: He developed a supremely loyal base. He also has burned bridges almost everywhere else.

You have voters like me that have and will vote for the bastard (he is one but with the nomination he's my bastard at the end of the day) but want him out there for the debates to be challenged and earn his spot. He isn't the incumbent this time around. Go fight for it, even if it appears to be an inevitability with his base not willing to budge. I don't agree with that approach but so be it.

His future prospects rely upon Biden screwing up so badly that people vote for him because they have no other choice. If the country isn't cratering around election time those people won't come back to him. It's personal to them and rewarding Trump isn't something they will want to do. Biden has to lose them first before Trump is considered. It's still far too early to determine if that will happen.

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Posted by Obtuse1

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Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:05 pm to Purple Spoon

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I’m not a denier but I have yet to hear anyone explain how Joe Biden received 81 million votes. 11 million MORE votes than Obama who had a flawless presidential campaign.

I did a long thread, showing all the work, in the election thread comparing Biden's numbers to Hillary's numbers.

I compared over 200 counties, the criteria was:

1. they were each in a deep red state
2. each county was deep red (at least 60% Trump, most higher)
3. the county did not use Dominion machines

I picked them at random (as random as looking at the map clicking a county can be) verified they met the criteria and added them to the list if they did.

Biden's national popular vote results were listed as 23.4% higher than Hillary's. When I added all the counties up and compared them to each other Biden was credited with a little over 21% (I forgot the exact number but it was within 2 percentage points) more than Hillary's published popular vote number. These are numbers from places one would think had almost no reason to cheat for Biden.

While this proves nothing 100% the fact Biden was credited with nearly the same popular vote increase in those 200+ deep red countiess as seen in the national numbers indicated to me the 81 million number was probably reasonably accurate and not the place to look, it is however far more memeable.

The election turned on around 40k votes. I am convinced the 81 million argument is a red herring. If the election was stolen it was stolen in very small pockets not on a national level.

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