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re: My son was getting brainwashed at school and I couldn't articulate an argument.

Posted on 11/10/23 at 4:28 am to
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13298 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 4:28 am to
Friend,

This is the most pathetic thing I have read thus far today. Granted, it is only four in the morning, but the idea that you are using a filth production to educate your children is most unsettling. I suggest you start with a Classical education, founded on the Bible. Give him the theological, philosophical, and literary tools he will need to analyze and organize for himself the dilemmas of today’s world.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 4:29 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34997 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 4:51 am to
Idealistic, but like telling the Republicans not to be mean or cheat when dealing with the Dems. A sure loss.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9518 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:14 am to
quote:

filth production



You sound fun
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39645 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:47 am to
quote:

you are using a filth production to educate your children

Your suggestion of a classical education is valuable, but it is a foundation for a contemporary education, not a replacement of it. And a contemporary education includes the most trenchant commentators. South Park is course, but it is excellent social commentary.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68180 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:57 am to
Your list is refined and high idealed.

Sometimes the audience is not William F. Buckley and a more base approach is required.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:01 am to
My Dear Friend,

I too lament the use of a trash production in a lamentable effort to address and rectify a woeful shortcoming. The ability to form and communicate arguments is an art and your mind must be trained. Schools could help. It is a travesty that more high schools do not invest more time into their speech and forensics departments to teach students arts like debate whether it be team debate or the Lincoln/Douglas one on one style. Or extemporaneous speech wherein they give you a topic and you have 90 minutes to prepare. Or just plain speech where the teacher would assign you a topic and a side to convince the audience.

My friend, I know you would concur with my belief that we must learn how to " argue: before we can "argue". To often we do not take the time to formulate and organize our arguments. Sites like Tigerdroppings unfortunately contribute to this malady of unsophistication that has infected our society .

So many who would complain of the inability of their youth to formulate coherent well structured argument are themselves caught up in the emotional .

To effectively argue, we must be able organize and prepare our positions and....also an ability to refute and potentially indict the other side's foundational evidence.

It all starts with speech class.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140717 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:05 am to
Your relatively new schtick is embarrassing.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1845 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:17 am to
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filth production


Friend, my recommendation is to quit being a puss. There are many lessons to learn from South Park and it is entertaining to boot. Trey and Matt are conservatives and republicans and constantly make fun of libs.

quote:

the Bible


On par with South Park for filth and violence. Just saying.
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11264 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 7:56 am to
quote:

I suggest you start with a Classical education, founded on the Bible. Give him the theological, philosophical, and literary tools he will need to analyze and organize for himself the dilemmas of today’s world.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, you can't give what you don't have.

Using Southpark as a primary learning tool shows a lack of effort, not an inspired epiphany of enlightenment.
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