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re: Minimum wage battle is going to destroy small businesses!
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:55 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:55 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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“Specialists”
“Machines”
“All of them”
“Automation”
“They’re the ones writing it off, Jerry.”
Do you run a business? There are independent people in every industry that are specialists and companies have entire support departments/specialists for their products, which are often at a fraction of the cost of hiring someone.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:03 pm to JetsetNuggs
Of course there are.
I think you’re underselling how unique a fast food/restaurant model is in comparison though.
I’m also just always going to push back when I hear people talk definitively about a subject or a solution and then throw vague catch-all terms when asked to expound on them.
McDonald’s own CEO says that this strategy isn’t practical for most restaurants and that staffing is the key, I feel like he is probably more in the know than LNCHBOX, don’t you?
I think you’re underselling how unique a fast food/restaurant model is in comparison though.
I’m also just always going to push back when I hear people talk definitively about a subject or a solution and then throw vague catch-all terms when asked to expound on them.
McDonald’s own CEO says that this strategy isn’t practical for most restaurants and that staffing is the key, I feel like he is probably more in the know than LNCHBOX, don’t you?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:04 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Its a common refrain, the problem is that anyone singing it is whining about the foundation of a free market economy. The supply of people willing to work for low wages is far less than the demand for people willing to work for low wages. If a business is reliant upon a supply of low wage workers that business is doomed to fail anyway. This is the foundation of a free market.
There's no free market economy when the government will pay you to sit on your arse, that's not a free market. The supply of workers willing to work a low wage job is artificially lowered by people not needing to work to put food on the table.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:08 pm to Epic Cajun
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There's no free market economy when the government will pay you to sit on your arse, that's not a free market. The supply of workers willing to work a low wage job is artificially lowered by people not needing to work to put food on the table.
Progfilth can't see this as they are all up in their feels.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:13 pm to Epic Cajun
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There's no free market economy when the government will pay you to sit on your arse, that's not a free market. The supply of workers willing to work a low wage job is artificially lowered by people not needing to work to put food on the table.
Of course there isn't a pure free market. There never has been, never will be.
The government also provides many free-market breaking incentives to business owners/operators that allow prices to be artificially high.
Again, on balance, in the United States (the richest and most productive country to ever exist in history by a lot) do you think that the government is more pro-business, pro-labor or neutral?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:16 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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McDonald’s own CEO says that this strategy isn’t practical for most restaurants and that staffing is the key, I feel like he is probably more in the know than LNCHBOX, don’t you?
LNCH also thinks the McDonald's has a self imposed upper limit on profit margin, so yea lmao
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:20 pm to NawlinsTiger9
So if unrealistic labor costs drive franchises to close that's a win for labor?
After all we are talking about franchise operations not the CEO.
After all we are talking about franchise operations not the CEO.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:22 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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I think you’re underselling how unique a fast food/restaurant model is in comparison though
Respectfully, I don't think it's that unique. A company like Coke likely has specialists that know how to replace/ clean drink machine tubes and the like. Sysco or Netsuite set up inventory systems that automatically reduce inventory when someone uses the automated kiosk to order. The kiosk manufacturer takes care of the physical machine. What you're left with is someone to wipe the tables and bathroom.
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McDonald’s own CEO says that this strategy isn’t practical for most restaurants and that staffing is the key, I feel like he is probably more in the know than LNCHBOX, don’t you?
He also said the struggle is the price point with the lower income consumer
Raising wages is not going to help that. That cost is going to get passed off to the consumer.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:25 pm to Jbird
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So if unrealistic labor costs drive franchises to close that's a win for labor?
After all we are talking about franchise operations not the CEO.
GM has less than 1/8th the UAW workers they had a few decades ago.
All you hear is how they win in contract negotiations.
It's the same basic thing. Demanding big money and benefits for unskilled labor.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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LNCH also thinks the McDonald's has a self imposed upper limit on profit margin, so yea lmao
Would love a quote for this
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:29 pm to BuckyCheese
Same clowns will whine when they drive more entry level jobs to automation.
Complain about the evil owner.
It's a franchise owner with a small margin
Complain about the evil owner.
It's a franchise owner with a small margin
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:33 pm to BuckyCheese
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What do you think happens when a Big Mac costs $20?
You can’t argue with them. They once took an Econ class in college.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:34 pm to SwampyWaters
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it's not the wage that's the problem, but they simply can't find people who want to work
Read just this part of what you wrote. Just think about it for a second. Idk what you do for a living but would you do it if you could make the same amount of money while doing nothing? I'm also skeptical that raising the minimum wage will have a positive impact on society but to say that the amount that people make doesn't influence their willingness to work is dumb.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:36 pm to beerJeep
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You can become a 100,000,000,000,000 (100 trillionaire) in Zimbabwean currency for the low low low exchange rate of roughly 40 cents US
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:39 pm to fareplay
I own a small business in Louisiana. 24 full time employees and 2-4 part timers depending on the time of the year. I 100% agree that no full time employee should be making less than $15/hr. None of my full time people make less than $20/hr and most everyone is $25/hr +. To be honest it’s killing the part time employee or the person who needs that extra part time job to keep his/her kid out of public schools.
Big corp like McD’s and stuff really don’t care, you’ll buy your $12 BigMac that you ordered and paid for on a kiosk and enjoy it. It’s the mom and pops who have a small boutique, coffee shop or lawn care co. that it’ll hurt the most but ultimately that what govt wants. I’m far from rich but luckily I’m super white privileged so I’ve made it pretty good for myself.
There has to be a middle ground where you don’t have to pay students/part time positions the same minimum wage as full time positions.
Big corp like McD’s and stuff really don’t care, you’ll buy your $12 BigMac that you ordered and paid for on a kiosk and enjoy it. It’s the mom and pops who have a small boutique, coffee shop or lawn care co. that it’ll hurt the most but ultimately that what govt wants. I’m far from rich but luckily I’m super white privileged so I’ve made it pretty good for myself.
There has to be a middle ground where you don’t have to pay students/part time positions the same minimum wage as full time positions.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:40 pm to Jbird
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Same clowns will whine when they drive more entry level jobs to automation.
Complain about the evil owner.
It's a franchise owner with a small margin
They won't be happy until everything is state owned.
Complete inability to see beyond tomorrow.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:41 pm to WilsonPickett
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There has to be a middle ground where you don’t have to pay students/part time positions the same minimum wage as full time positions.
think Australia has this. Know they once did.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:43 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I'm also skeptical that raising the minimum wage will have a positive impact on society but to say that the amount that people make doesn't influence their willingness to work is dumb.
Railroads consider it a success if a conductor class has 10% still working two years after their hire date.
These are not low paying jobs and they have excellent retirement.
The number of people out there that are perfectly happy to just get by is amazing.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:48 pm to BuckyCheese
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Railroads consider it a success if a conductor class has 10% still working two years after their hire date.
These are not low paying jobs and they have excellent retirement.
What's the pay and retirement look like?
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:51 pm to SwampyWaters
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Please don't use Covid as an excuse, because I think that excuse has run its course.
quote:you cherry pick what excuses are acceptable
This country was built on small businesses
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