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BABIP - Batting Average On Balls in Play

Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:22 am
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
51 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:22 am
Ran the numbers to see what our team BABIP is.

For those not familiar, BABIP indicates how lucky/unlucky you are with regard to where you are hitting the ball. For reference, MLB average is ~.300. If BABIP > .300, you’re “hitting it where they ain’t”; if BABIP under .300, you’re “hitting it right at ‘em”. Should run a bit higher than .300 in college given the level of defender is not that of the MLB.

So here are the numbers..

LSU Overall BABIP: .326
Opponents overall BABIP: .332

LSU SEC Conf BABIP: .280
SEC Opponents BABIP: .354

One could argue our hitters have been unlucky in SEC play, with our opponents being pretty damn lucky at the same time. The good news: these numbers will mean revert over time, assuming we consistently make hard contact on par with our opponents.

Only caveat: I’m not accounting for exit velocity. It’s possible we have a way lower avg exit velocity than our SEC opponents, which could contribute to the lower BABIP.

Only other plausible explanation is Wanaka is sabotaging us from the inside, putting our guys out of position defensively.

In short, THERE IS HOPE
Posted by brtiger77
Member since Aug 2023
176 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:30 am to
Kind of a weird thing to deep dive and post at 3AM
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77738 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:30 am to
I can add to this.

Per d1 stats

From a pitching standpoint:
Lsu has a defensive/pitching babip of .332, 3rd worst in the conference. Their 3.04 siera is 3rd best in conference, so they have definitely been on the unlucky side from a pitching and defensive perspective.

Their .327 offensive babip is pretty average for the conference.

Sidenote:
Vanderbilts offensive babip is .362 for 3rd best in conference.
Their defensive babip is .286 for 2nd best in conference.

In other words, regression is heading their way
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 5:34 am
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24382 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:58 am to
Nice post
Posted by bourbon78
Member since Feb 2024
99 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:07 am to
It doesn’t help much if we strike out 12+ times a game.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164354 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:10 am to
quote:

Only other plausible explanation is Wanaka is sabotaging us from the inside, putting our guys out of position defensively.

Most likely. LSU’s defensive positioning has been a glaring weakness since Day 1 under Jay Johnson.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7285 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:11 am to
How do the defensive shifts play into this?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30841 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:08 am to
quote:

For those not familiar, BABIP indicates how lucky/unlucky you are with regard to where you are hitting the ball.


Kinda. If you hit weak popups every time the ball is in play, that's still poor batting.

quote:

Only caveat: I’m not accounting for exit velocity. It’s possible we have a way lower avg exit velocity than our SEC opponents, which could contribute to the lower BABIP.


Yeah that's what I was talking about.

Also, are you using every AB that isn't a strikeout or does it only count ball hit in fair territory? In other words, does it looking at HITS/(AB-SO) or does it look at HITS/(AB-SO-FOUL-OUTS)?

That is an interesting stat, though.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4856 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:17 am to
Not all balls are hit equally. This isn’t all about luck. A hard hit ball in the gap is not luck compared to a pop fly in the gap that the OF can get under. In other words, a low BABIP can very well indicate a team that is not hitting the ball well.
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:17 am to
Nice list
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7585 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:31 am to
I just see that we hit a lot more pop flies than our opponents. Loud outs don't get you much.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9001 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:34 am to
quote:

SU SEC Conf BABIP: .280
SEC Opponents BABIP: .354


Thats tough
Posted by SlippinJimmy
Member since Jan 2024
83 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:39 am to
The problem with these kind of stats though are they are so subjective on their own. Would be interesting to see the average exit velo or percentage of hard hit balls playing into that number. Just seems like a lot of the times in SEC play there aren't a lot of 'loud' outs in my opinion. But I would agree that it seems like other teams have been catching breaks against us, like all of the doubles down the line, etc.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19121 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:59 am to
quote:

One could argue our hitters have been unlucky in SEC play, with our opponents being pretty damn lucky at the same time.


Not necessarily. That could also mean the batters are chasing the pitchers pitch the gets them to hit ground ball outs and pop ups.

Whitey Herzog built his team around this philosophy in STL. He put a gold glove defense behind rag arm pithers like John Tudor that would throw 80 mph slurves at the bottom of the strike zone all night. He would often go 7-8 inngs and have 14-20 ground ball putouts and popups.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 11:01 am
Posted by WHODAT14
Kenner
Member since Oct 2017
17 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:13 pm to
BABIP is dumb. You can make up a stat for anything. Take your calculator and stick it up your butt nerd.
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