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re: Discussion at work: Is The Masters overrated?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:39 am to TheWalrus
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:39 am to TheWalrus
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My biggest complaint is the field is too small and a bunch of spots are wasted on former champs and amateurs that have no shot.
The Masters is an invitational tournament based on certain criteria. No spots are taken up by past champions or Am tournament winners. In other words, the 51st ranked player in the world is not bumped out because Fred Couples or the Latin American Am winner plays. Here is the criteria for an invitation:
Win it!
Winning the Masters earns the champion a lifetime exemption into the field — the most generous exemption in the world of golf. Many former champions continue to play the Masters even though they are long past their prime. Earlier this year, 64-year-old Larry Mize announced that the 2023 Masters will be his last. This year will mark 40 consecutive Masters for Mize, who won his green jacket in 1987.
Win one of the other three majors
Players who win one of the other three majors (PGA Championship, U.S. Open and Open Championship) are awarded a five-year exemption into the Masters field.
Win the Players Championship
Winners of the Players Championship can enjoy a three-year exemption into the Masters.
Win Olympic gold
The Olympic gold medalist can enjoy a one-year exemption into the Masters field.
Win (or finish runner-up) in an elite amateur tournament
Winners of the U.S. Amateur Championship, British Amateur, Asia-Pacific Amateur, Latin American Amateur and U.S. Mid-Amateur are invited to play the Masters. Traditionally, the U.S. Amateur runner-up is also invited.
Play well in the majors
The top-12 finishers (including ties) at each year’s Masters are invited back the following year if they are not otherwise exempt. For the other major championships, it’s the top 4 and ties.
Win a PGA Tour tournament
Winners of PGA Tour events that received full FedEx Cup points are eligible for a spot in the Masters.
Qualify for the Tour Championship
The 30 players who qualify for the PGA Tour’s Tour Championship are exempt into the Masters field the following year.
Be a Top-50 player
The top 50-ranked players in the Official World Golf Ranking as of January 1 every year earn an exemption into the Masters field.
Be a Top-50 player the week before the Masters
Any player who enters the top 50 of the Official World Golf Ranking and who is not otherwise exempt the week before each Masters gets an invitation to join the field.
Catch the Masters Committee’s attention
The Masters Committee also reserves the right to extend an invitation to players that they feel are deserving of a place in the field. This year, Japanese pro Kazuki Higa and reigning NCAA champion Gordon Sargent accepted special invitations.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:44 am to contraryman
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They began showing the entire course years ago, and it gets more TV coverage than any other major.
Heck, they even laser mapped the entire course and put it in the latest PGA tour video game.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:45 am to LSUlefty
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My personal favorite golf tournament
Bold take here.
Yours and everyone else’s, that’s kind of the point being made
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:47 am to Tiger1242
I've always wondered if there was some money to be made by creating a near exact replica of Augusta National and charging people an arm and leg to play it. Part of the mystique of that course is the exclusivity. But land is relatively cheap in that part of the country and you can bulldoze some earth around to match the layout and plant the same trees and flowers and all.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:48 am to Tiger1242
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See, I think it is comments like this, that had the guy making the argument, the most fired up.
frick up some commas
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:50 am to AUFANATL
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But land is relatively cheap in that part of the country and you can bulldoze some earth around to match the layout and plant the same trees and flowers and all.
Nothing about that type of endeavor would be cheap or really realistically possible.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:52 am to Tiger1242
Underrated if anything. I don’t watch golf, but I always watch the Masters.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:54 am to hometownhero89
quote:I have been to countless national parks and multiple countries
So golf courses are just national parks for lazy suburbanites? That’s all I get by the description of how concessions and landscaping blew your skirt up in this manner.
Augusta National is landscape art. It’s truly unreal. Is it naturally beautiful like Yellowstone? Absolutely not. But it’s manipulated landscape put together. It’s truly an art piece how it all came together
It looks fake even in person multiple times I grabbed blades of grass or touched flowers to test it
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:00 am to Tiger1242
Being first in everything is an advantage.. doesn’t matter though. The reason it’s first is because the course is closed during the summer
Same course…. Adds familiarity and a personal “ownership “ of the tournament that is unique
The Greens are a defense and offer once again a unique challenge not shared by many courses
Small field produces once again a unique intimate look at the stars we want to see
Reatrictive viewing is a thing of years past.. they pioneered the unique nature of watching hole groupings and featured groups
The key in everything and why it’s the best tournament/major is the unique nature of the entire event leading to a tradition that is unmatched from the course to the field..
Same course…. Adds familiarity and a personal “ownership “ of the tournament that is unique
The Greens are a defense and offer once again a unique challenge not shared by many courses
Small field produces once again a unique intimate look at the stars we want to see
Reatrictive viewing is a thing of years past.. they pioneered the unique nature of watching hole groupings and featured groups
The key in everything and why it’s the best tournament/major is the unique nature of the entire event leading to a tradition that is unmatched from the course to the field..
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:04 am to TheWalrus
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My biggest complaint is the field is too small
That just means everyone there had to play decent golf at some point to qualify. No sponsors exemptions at Augusta
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:06 am to chalmetteowl
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That just means everyone there had to play decent golf at some point to qualify.
Except for the 70yr olds
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:06 am to Tiger1242
They've had their fair share of controversy. From Black Caddies and no Black golfers to women's exclusion, they have hardly led the pack in innovation and fairness. If you recall, the blueblood hierarchy did not want to over-expose the Masters, so TV could only telecast a few hours of the product on Saturday and Sunday. For years all we could see was the back half of the golf course. The rest of the place was only a myth.
Jim Nance treats the place like he's at the memorial on the USS Arizona. I can hear Jimmy and that sanctimonious tone of voice, "Hello Friends, on these hallow grounds, we are so privileged and honored to actually be found worthy of standing on these Bobby Jones blades of grass, surrounded by the praying azaleas and huge glorious pines, who no doubt, are thanking their creator for being planted in such an awe-inspiring sacred location known simply as the Masters.
Yeah, let's go ahead and call the place slightly "overrated."
Jim Nance treats the place like he's at the memorial on the USS Arizona. I can hear Jimmy and that sanctimonious tone of voice, "Hello Friends, on these hallow grounds, we are so privileged and honored to actually be found worthy of standing on these Bobby Jones blades of grass, surrounded by the praying azaleas and huge glorious pines, who no doubt, are thanking their creator for being planted in such an awe-inspiring sacred location known simply as the Masters.
Yeah, let's go ahead and call the place slightly "overrated."
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:07 am to Tiger1242
Simple answer, no.
I think that it being on the same course every year helps immensely for fans. There is a familiarity with what you are watching. I have never actually been on the grounds, but comments from those that have say there isn't a flat spot on the course, and that TV does it no justice.
Also, I trust the players opinions, and they all seem to think that The Masters is anything but overrated.
I think that it being on the same course every year helps immensely for fans. There is a familiarity with what you are watching. I have never actually been on the grounds, but comments from those that have say there isn't a flat spot on the course, and that TV does it no justice.
Also, I trust the players opinions, and they all seem to think that The Masters is anything but overrated.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:07 am to Tiger1242
It’s the same course every year for a reason. There are very few golfers that win more than three times that have played over 25-30 years. That’s why they call it the Masters.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:10 am to Tiger1242
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Except for the 70yr olds
Who won the Masters, even if it was 40 years ago
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:17 am to Tiger1242
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Discussion at work: Is The Masters overrated?
you work at the same mcdonalds as that dipshit arky poster?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:24 am to AUFANATL
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I've always wondered if there was some money to be made by creating a near exact replica of Augusta National and charging people an arm and leg to play it.
There are two courses, one in Dallas and one in Houston, called Tour 18. They replicate famous holes from famous golf courses, the Church Pews at Oakmont, #18 at Harbour Town, TPC Sawgrass #17 to name a few. Each course has a few of the same and a few different from each other. Each course has Amen Corner at Augusta National, # 11,12 and 13. They both have #17 at Sawgrass as well. I've played both and they are pretty fun, they cost around $100 per round so not too expensive.
There is also one in Dallas called the Tribute, copied holes from famous British Open Championship courses, cost about the same and was just as fun.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:36 am to Tiger1242
I used to go in the 90s when it wasn't restricted.......it was still the standard.
Tiger is the reason it has to be regulated ticket wise due to his popularity.
They did heavily restrict viewing access but that is mostly gone now with espn and cbs....and golf Channel doing nightly all week.
The place is special, some of that might be just be due to where it is and it being so unexpected.
From the old golfers that are now gone to the present. They almost all want to win this one over all others, a few still say the British or US but the Master is hugely the 1st choice.
I love watching the British and the US is fun but the Masters is just.on a different level to me.
Tiger is the reason it has to be regulated ticket wise due to his popularity.
They did heavily restrict viewing access but that is mostly gone now with espn and cbs....and golf Channel doing nightly all week.
The place is special, some of that might be just be due to where it is and it being so unexpected.
From the old golfers that are now gone to the present. They almost all want to win this one over all others, a few still say the British or US but the Master is hugely the 1st choice.
I love watching the British and the US is fun but the Masters is just.on a different level to me.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:59 am to Tiger1242
I watch it but I think it is
It’s the perfectly manufactured Instagram sporting event
Spray painted grass and the artificial birds chirping so everything looks great
The calling fans “Patrons”
It’s so smarmy
And the “ OMG. How cheap the concessions are “ luckily your Airbnb was $1200 a night such a bargain !!!!
It’s the perfectly manufactured Instagram sporting event
Spray painted grass and the artificial birds chirping so everything looks great
The calling fans “Patrons”
It’s so smarmy
And the “ OMG. How cheap the concessions are “ luckily your Airbnb was $1200 a night such a bargain !!!!
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:42 am to Tiger1242
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Being the first major of the year gives it added attention
If it were the 4th major of the year people would be saying “it’s the last major of the year so it gets added attention.” The Masters is the Masters, it doesn’t matter what order it’s in.
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Same course every year
All this does is speak to the greatness of the course. This, if anything, would actually make it less interesting because it makes it more like a regular tournament throughout the year that is played at the same course every year. The other three majors have the benefit of giving the viewer a different experience every year. Augusta is just that nice. Thinking that having it at the same place every year is an advantage over the other majors just tells me it’s more underrated than it is overrated.
Would you be saying the US Open has an edge over the other majors if they had it at the Los Angeles Country Club every year? No. We’d all be begging them to change the course. Nobody is doing that with Augusta.
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restrictive viewing/access gives it a mystique it doesn’t necessarily deserve
Why doesn’t it deserve the mystique?
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Basically the argument being made is the people who run Augusta are marketing and promotional experts and have found a way to make an otherwise normal golf tournament into the biggest event of the year. Augusta gets credit for stuff that a lot of super high end golf courses/clubs also do. Thoughts?
I think that Augusta/CBS could do absolutely ZERO marketing and promotions prior to the Masters other that release the times/dates and they’d have just as many viewers and interest. It’s an incredible golf course and tournament on its on, regardless if they’re good at marketing.
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