re: How would the US be different if women were never allowed to vote?

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know some great, strong independent women. They've avoided the simp traps.

Desperate, idiotic dudes treating women like princess is the problem.

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I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen the guys you're referring to.

I think the problem is taking relationships between men and women out of the context of committed marriage/family relationships.

Society was much more stable even with most people doing marriage badly when people were married, and by "married," I don't mean serial monogamy, I mean "'till death do us part."

As far as voting, I think society would mostly be better off, with a few exceptions. Cubbies can hate that all she wants. I think it's true. I don't think women are wired to generally make the best decisions in that context..

For example. I don't like Donald Trump. But I know the life of my family and millions of families like ours will be better if he is elected rather than a repeat of Joe Biden.

My wife doesn't like Donald Trump. Only there's a difference. Two differences, really. She doesn't just not like like him, she hates him. Gets angry talking about him. Can't keep from getting emotional about him.

I've never met the guy. I'll never have him over to my house. To me it's nothing personal. To her it is. I don't get emotional over the guy. She does.
That's difference number one.

Difference number two—closely related to difference number one—is that it's not difficult at all for me to walk into a booth and pull a lever for someone who is going to have a positive impact on me and people like me even if I don't like him. So what if I don't like him personally? That's got nothing to do with it.

My wife can't separate the two. And her feelings are so important to her that she would rather satisfy the urge to spite the guy by voting for the opposition than she would preserve the best interests of her family.

We went through this in 2020 and she didn't listen to me. After what has happened over the past 3 1/2 years—and what our grocery bill currently is when we check out at the store—she might be ready to listen this time.

Might be.

She could still succumb to emotion at the last minute.

*But I have an ace in the hole this time. Biden said something that made her as mad as she's ever been at Trump during last year's (not this past one) SOTUA. She's an audiologist and he basically called all audiologists crooks.

So voting day I'm going to remind her of that.