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re: Captain faces 10 years in jail for fiery deaths of 34 people aboard California scuba boat

Posted on 5/2/24 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7853 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 5:27 pm to
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Are they enclosed boats or something?


The liveaboards are.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
4680 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 5:39 pm to
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I don't know the details, but I am wondering how 35 people died in a fire on a scuba dive boat? There was scuba equipment aboard... jump over the side maybe?


If I remember what I read correctly they were all below deck and their phones/batteries were all charging in the same place. When the fire happened they were blocked from going anywhere.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33950 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 6:10 pm to
Didn't it happen at night?
Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
3959 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:31 pm to
I remember this tragedy. Lithium chargers and faulty wiring from what I can gather. Are there no smoke alarms? How is this the captain’s fault? Just questions I’ve had.
Posted by WyattDonnelly
Member since Feb 2024
194 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:04 pm to
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The Edmund Fitzgerald


I hope you’re kidding .
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3167 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:06 pm to
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I don't know the details, but I am wondering how 35 people died in a fire on a scuba dive boat? There was scuba equipment aboard... jump over the side maybe? I can understand if there was an explosion that killed people, but if I have 2 seconds or more, I am over the side. I'll take my chances with the sharks or long term exposure. I'm not victim blaming, but I am just wondering how this could kill so many people


Enclosed cabin. There must be an auxiliary hatch to evacuate the cabin but it was dogged down from the exterior. The fire was between the bunks and the only other way out.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
1841 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:20 pm to
I didn’t read the full article. Did he make efforts to rescue them or did he just bail?
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
220 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:20 pm to
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Bro the well site leaders that got those guys killed on the deep water horizon didn’t get shite.


Why can’t both be true at the same time?
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
1921 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:12 am to
Could they not have just dove in the water to avoid catching on fire? Don't know about yall but if a major fire is on a boat, I'm diving in water. Unless it was an explosion that engulfed them before they could react.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:46 am to
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ould they not have just dove in the water to avoid catching on fire?


The fire was between where they were and the water. They were below deck and died of smoke inhalation.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34823 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 2:13 am to
How does the captain live but 34 people burn to death? What happened to going down with your ship

Absolutely should see serious jail time
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10572 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 4:27 am to


:yikes:
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4195 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:09 am to
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Barrister


I work with the father of the female deckhand that died. What a long process this has been.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 6:14 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12974 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:27 am to
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I don't know the details, but I am wondering how 35 people died in a fire on a scuba dive boat? There was scuba equipment aboard... jump over the side maybe? I can understand if there was an explosion that killed people, but if I have 2 seconds or more, I am over the side. I'll take my chances with the sharks or long term exposure. I'm not victim blaming, but I am just wondering how this could kill so many people.

The boat was anchored overnight. 33 passengers and 1 crew member were sleeping below deck when a fire broke out shortly after 3 a.m. Five crew members (including the captain) whose sleeping quarters were on the top deck, survived while everyone else on board died.

It was probably too late to save the below deck people.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31302 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:37 am to
You guys need to read the link on page one, it explains exactly how they all died.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26474 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:51 am to
For some reason I don't recall this story.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:03 am to
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The Edmund Fitzgerald?

I love Edmund Fitzgerald’s voice
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11309 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:41 am to
I was in Santa Barbara last week. Could have been me.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68919 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:44 am to
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What was the cause of the fire?



Too many people plugging their phones in.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68919 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:51 am to
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"I hate the term accident in this case because, in my opinion, it is not an accident if you fail to operate your company safely", and NTSB Chairman Robert Sumwalt admonished Truth Aquatics to "clean up your act."[80] In the report synopsis, the NTSB also concluded "Truth Aquatics had been deviating from required safe practices for some time" and added that "Truth Aquatics provided ineffective safety oversight of its vessels' operations", based on observations of existing unsafe practices, including the lack of a roving patrol, failure to train the crew, and failure to hold emergency drills.




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Uncredentialed deckhands were allowed to direct movement of the vessel, contradicting Subchapter T regulations. New crewmembers were not required to read and understand emergency procedures prior to getting underway. Fire drills were not held regularly. Passenger briefings were not conducted as soon as possible after leaving port. Collectively, the NTSB called it "a habitual disregard for rules, policies, and procedures" and the resulting normalization of deviance could have been discovered earlier if Truth Aquatics "had been actively engaged in ensuring the safe practices required by regulations were being followed".
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 7:53 am
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