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re: Pels want to move to top of draft, BI to be “aggressively” shopped per Stein
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:21 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:21 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:If this were true, this season would have gone off without a hitch.
He can't do it here because Zion is way too unreliable, so BI has to be ready to go #1 mode at any given time.
Zion played 69 games, more than BI
But instead, BI didn't accept the #2 role, and Willie appeased him to completely revamp the offense away from Zion and back to BI...when Zion was playing and not injured.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 10:21 am
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:21 am to Pels_Yaz
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So you’re telling me people who handle the ball more basically are effectively hampered from shooting the 3 more? Just making sure thats what you’re stating?
No, you imbecile. I'm saying that handling the ball absolutely decreases the efficiency of 3 point shots available to you. If you are being asked to drive the paint to collapse the defense, then you are not standing wide-open for catch-and-shoot opportunities. Did you even read my post? Can you read? Can you pour piss from a boot? frick if I know.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:22 am to shel311
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If this were true, this season would have gone off without a hitch.
Zion played 69 games, more than BI
But instead, BI didn't accept the #2 role, and Willie appeased him to completely revamp the offense away from Zion and back to BI...when Zion was playing and not injured.
Because this is the first year we've tried to develop that chemistry and consistency, right?
And you're really going to try to argue that we weren't fully running point-Zion when he finally got in shape in March? Was it BI's fault that Zion was too fat to give consistent effort on either end of the floor? No, but BI was asked to take over and initiate while Zion gasped for air in the halfcourt corner.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:24 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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No, you imbecile. I'm saying that handling the ball absolutely decreases the efficiency of 3 point shots available to you. If you are being asked to drive the paint to collapse the defense, then you are not standing wide-open for catch-and-shoot opportunities. Did you even read my post? Can you read? Can you pour piss from a boot? frick if I know.
It doesn’t. You have no stats to back this up. Plenty of stars handle the ball and if anything their 3 point shots increase not decrease.
I’ll ignore all the below the belt personsal shots because thats how you to try to enforce your points that have no backing whatsoever.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:28 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:Yes, 50 games into the season we finally stopped appeasing BI and went to Zion. Not sure which part of that is confusing to you
And you're really going to try to argue that we weren't fully running point-Zion when he finally got in shape in March?
quote:It was BI's fault we had an offense with Zion as the #1 option and he complained to Willie so Willie overhauled the offense just a month or so into the season to go back to BI.
Was it BI's fault that Zion was too fat to give consistent effort on either end of the floor?
Yes, that is BI's fault.
I also like the idea you're insinuating where BI is this hard worker on both sides of the floor while Zion is the only lazy one
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:06 am to Pels_Yaz
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You have no stats to back this up.
And I don't give a damn, because winning arguments with you does not matter to me. I know I'm right, and I know you're wrong. Deal with it.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:07 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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I know I'm right, and I know you're wrong. Deal with it.
Hahahahaha.
Apparently you don’t care about winning arguments with anyone. I seen your posts its just random opinion shite without any backing. You’re a special one.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:10 am to shel311
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Yes, 50 games into the season we finally stopped appeasing BI and went to Zion. Not sure which part of that is confusing to you
The part that he was out of shape for those 50 games and was entirely incapable of running point-Zion for more than 15-20 minutes a game effectively, hence BI had to run point-Bi while Zion stood in the halfcourt corner for damn near entire possessions. But sure, it's BI's fault that Zion wasn't professional enough to get in shape run the offense you wanted to run.
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I also like the idea you're insinuating where BI is this hard worker on both sides of the floor while Zion is the only lazy one
I guarantee you that BI moves off the ball far more than Zion. I'm not going to go chasing tracking stats, but you are being intellectually dishonest at this point.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:18 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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I'm not going to go chasing tracking stats
Yes we know.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:35 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:Neither one ever moves off ball so it's quite literally impossible for one to move "far more" than the other.
I guarantee you that BI moves off the ball far more than Zion.
quote:Probably because every time you try something, I prove you wrong with stats(then you cry about it for days afterwards, but that's another story entirely), so I get why you don't want to when in reality, you can't.
I'm not going to go chasing tracking stats
quote:You're saying words for the sake of saying words, but you've said nothing to back up this assertion.
but you are being intellectually dishonest at this point.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 11:36 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:36 am to shel311
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Probably because every time you try something, I prove you wrong with stats(then you cry about it for days afterwards, but that's another story entirely), so I get why you don't want to when in reality, you can't.
Then prove me wrong. You're a loser with way too much free time. Go compare and bring it back. Prove me wrong, oh glorious Shelley.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:37 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:I didn't even have to prove you wrong this time for you to start having a meltdown
Then prove me wrong. You're a loser with way too much free time. Go compare and bring it back. Prove me wrong, oh glorious Shelley.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:38 am to shel311
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You're saying words for the sake of saying words, but you've said nothing to back up this assertion.
And I don't give a shite, Shelley. Tigerdroppings is clearly your domain. Go claim your victory.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:39 am to shel311
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I didn't even have to prove you wrong this time for you to start having a meltdown
Next you're going to claim I'm derailing the thread while you approach 200k posts.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:41 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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And I don't give a shite, Shelley. Tigerdroppings is clearly your domain. Go claim your victory.
quote:Remember when we were discussing the Pelicans, but now all you want to do is talk about me.
Next you're going to claim I'm derailing the thread while you approach 200k posts.
That's pretty weird.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:29 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Zion absolutely needs to find a way to become more effective off the ball or he will never reach his potential. Imagine if he could have hit some of those wide-open threes he was given all year. Imagine if he could provide some spacing on his own, then you could develop a more balanced roster.
Zion needs to improve for sure but let’s not act like he wasn’t dropping his fricking nutsack on LeBron AND AD in the play in game.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:15 pm to WicKed WayZ
Guess those games at the beginning of the season didn't count in the standing. Those games where Z was completely out of shape and failed to run back on defense. Do you remember Sir Charles counted the number of time Z hustled to cross the half court line. In case you forgot, it was zero. It took Sir Charles to motivate Z.
Z lacks basic basketball skills. He doesn't work on his game during the off-season. He cannot shoot ten feet from the rim.Yes he can be a human highlight reel like the game against the Lakers. His game is one dimensional in half court. Look how his lack of skills impact JV. Z clogs the middle not Jonas and not Brandon. Not forget Brandon takes more three pointers than Z.
Z lacks basic basketball skills. He doesn't work on his game during the off-season. He cannot shoot ten feet from the rim.Yes he can be a human highlight reel like the game against the Lakers. His game is one dimensional in half court. Look how his lack of skills impact JV. Z clogs the middle not Jonas and not Brandon. Not forget Brandon takes more three pointers than Z.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:29 pm to ErikGordan
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Z lacks basic basketball skills.
wow it must be some sort of miracle that he lacks basic basketball skills yet hes in the NBA?
It’s ok to criticize a player but statements like this are just plain moronic.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:55 pm to shel311
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Yes, 50 games into the season we finally stopped appeasing BI and went to Zion
You keep rehashing lame stats. You could also say Pels were first place in division (ahead of Dallas) before said offense change. Said change didnt change the fact that Pels limped into the playoffs as an 8th seed. This is a money thing and a Pels Front Office redirect. They sat at the deadline and did nothing while Dallas made moves and are in conference semis. They sat in the offseason and did nothing and save ‘Josh Richardson’ and ‘wheres Cody’ have done nothing for 2 years. The naivety amazes me but carry on.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:59 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Zion needs to improve for sure but let’s not act like he wasn’t dropping his fricking nutsack on LeBron AND AD in the play in game.
He absolutely was. He looked amazing in the last month before the injury. I still think he hasn't reached his potential. For all the complaints about BI not shooting 3s, Zion shoots less. There have absolutely been games where Zion was either defended or refereed (or both) in a way that takes him out of his game. When those drives are taken away from him, he disappears.
Again, this got better toward the end of the year when he was clearly quicker (and lighter). However, EVERY superstar in the NBA in the 2020s takes and hits 3s, even centers. That is a clear place that Zion can improve his game. Being lighter should also help clean up his jumper.
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