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re: Greg Popovich: "We live in a racist country that hasn't figured it out yet."
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:11 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:11 am to BulldogXero
quote:
The NBA is probably the least diverse in all of major sports.
There's 40 countries represented on rosters in the NBA.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:06 pm to Walt OReilly
More like they are resentful after generations of oppression and abuse.
You and your family would be too.
You and your family would be too.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:08 pm to YStar
quote:
More like they are resentful after generations of oppression and abuse.
You and your family would be too.
So they're blaming current white people for something that was abolished in 1863?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:14 pm to SwaggerCopter
Greg Popovich is a self righteous piece of shite.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:18 pm to VADawg
Thanks for making my point for me. Your so damn ignorant you think they aren't getting treated lesser than now. You also play down all the crap they had to go through.
How would you like if someone did a lot of bad shut to your father, then you, then they told your kid "get over it"?
I don't expect an intelligent response. People like you only attempt to understand things when they are the ones experiencing them. They never try to be sympathetic to others.
How would you like if someone did a lot of bad shut to your father, then you, then they told your kid "get over it"?
I don't expect an intelligent response. People like you only attempt to understand things when they are the ones experiencing them. They never try to be sympathetic to others.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 7:56 pm to SwaggerCopter
Some of the responses in the thread are indicative of the problems that exist until today.
There’s folks saying “why are the blacks different in a socioeconomic sense from other minorities?” and “slavery ended 150 years ago, the blacks today weren’t slaves”.
Those echoing these sentiments aren’t taking into consideration a few societal issues that exist in their own areas when making these statements:
Sure, slavery was legally ended in the 19th century. However, there were social constructs that were in effect well into the 20th century (ex. Jim Crow). When we speak of Jim Crow, that’s not something that’s far off from society today, but there are many black people amongst us that have live through that period. If your great grandparents were around as slaves/sharecroppers; your grandparents were around during the Jim Crow era; parents were in Jim Crow or caught the end of it (CRA of 1965) —don’t be surprised if you’re poor*. If you’re poor, don’t be surprised if you’re uneducated, due to neglect of the public schools(particularly in LA, i.e. White flight). Poor people+uneducated+80s/90s drug epidemic=Major problems. While there’s been plenty to break that cycle, that’s a situation many blacks are in.
Further, there are still constructs that existed up until recently, that have to be considered. For example, Louisiana folks, you may remember that even in the 21st century, there are still communities that have had a separate prom for blacks and whites. As surreal as that situation sounds, there’s merit that racism propagated these actions. Almost all black folks nationwide have roots in the rural south, and these situations and folks that experienced these things are still alive.
As far as the comparing blacks to other minorities, I’m unsure of what the point is. Just as there are some blacks who have overcame their situation, there’s other minority groups that have the same. Sure, the Asians, specifically Vietnamese, have had their success in LA, but there’s a lot less of them, so it’s easy to point to the successes, if you don’t see the unsuccessful ones(there are plenty unsuccessful Asians in BR, NOLA, and the Acadians area).
There’s folks saying “why are the blacks different in a socioeconomic sense from other minorities?” and “slavery ended 150 years ago, the blacks today weren’t slaves”.
Those echoing these sentiments aren’t taking into consideration a few societal issues that exist in their own areas when making these statements:
Sure, slavery was legally ended in the 19th century. However, there were social constructs that were in effect well into the 20th century (ex. Jim Crow). When we speak of Jim Crow, that’s not something that’s far off from society today, but there are many black people amongst us that have live through that period. If your great grandparents were around as slaves/sharecroppers; your grandparents were around during the Jim Crow era; parents were in Jim Crow or caught the end of it (CRA of 1965) —don’t be surprised if you’re poor*. If you’re poor, don’t be surprised if you’re uneducated, due to neglect of the public schools(particularly in LA, i.e. White flight). Poor people+uneducated+80s/90s drug epidemic=Major problems. While there’s been plenty to break that cycle, that’s a situation many blacks are in.
Further, there are still constructs that existed up until recently, that have to be considered. For example, Louisiana folks, you may remember that even in the 21st century, there are still communities that have had a separate prom for blacks and whites. As surreal as that situation sounds, there’s merit that racism propagated these actions. Almost all black folks nationwide have roots in the rural south, and these situations and folks that experienced these things are still alive.
As far as the comparing blacks to other minorities, I’m unsure of what the point is. Just as there are some blacks who have overcame their situation, there’s other minority groups that have the same. Sure, the Asians, specifically Vietnamese, have had their success in LA, but there’s a lot less of them, so it’s easy to point to the successes, if you don’t see the unsuccessful ones(there are plenty unsuccessful Asians in BR, NOLA, and the Acadians area).
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:03 pm to Cecil D Diesel
quote:
Some of the responses in the thread are indicative of the problems that exist until today.
There’s folks saying “why are the blacks different in a socioeconomic sense from other minorities?” and “slavery ended 150 years ago, the blacks today weren’t slaves”.
Those echoing these sentiments aren’t taking into consideration a few societal issues that exist in their own areas when making these statements:
Sure, slavery was legally ended in the 19th century. However, there were social constructs that were in effect well into the 20th century (ex. Jim Crow). When we speak of Jim Crow, that’s not something that’s far off from society today, but there are many black people amongst us that have live through that period. If your great grandparents were around as slaves/sharecroppers; your grandparents were around during the Jim Crow era; parents were in Jim Crow or caught the end of it (CRA of 1965) —don’t be surprised if you’re in certain. If you’re poor, don’t be surprised if you’re uneducated, due to neglect of the public schools(particularly in LA, i.e. White flight). Poor people+uneducated+80s/90s drug epidemic=Major problems. While there’s been plenty to break that cycle, that’s a situation many blacks are in.
Further, there are still constructs that existed up until recently, that have to be considered. For example, Louisiana folks, you may remember that even in the 21st century, there are still communities that have had a separate prom for blacks and whites. As surreal as that situation sounds, there’s merit that racism propagated these actions. Almost all black folks nationwide have roots in the rural south, and these situations and folks that experienced these things are still alive.
As far as the comparing blacks to other minorities, I’m unsure of what the point is. Just as there are some blacks who have overcame their situation, there’s other minority groups that have the same. Sure, the Asians, specifically Vietnamese, have had their success in LA, but there’s a lot less of them, so it’s easy to point to the successes, if you don’t see the unsuccessful ones(there are plenty unsuccessful Asians in BR, NOLA, and the Acadians area).
Holy shite dude, this is like a fricking thesis
Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:15 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Yeah, I didn’t realize how long it was until I submitted. And that was after reading a couple pages. thank goodness, I didn’t take the time to respond to everything
Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:25 pm to SwaggerCopter
Get them Pop, keep giving them hell!
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:29 pm to YStar
quote:
How would you like if someone did a lot of bad shut to your father, then you, then they told your kid "get over it"?
The kids who were told to get over it have been dead for 100 years. That shite happened six generations ago. People alive right now had nothing to do with what happened in the 1800s
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:32 pm to MSMHater
quote:MLB has 75
There's 40 countries represented on rosters in the NBA.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:41 pm to Cecil D Diesel
Pop is starting to lose his mental edge.
And Gary you are fat; fatty
And Gary you are fat; fatty
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:56 pm to Winston Cup
quote:
And Gary you are fat; fatty
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:24 pm to Cecil D Diesel
quote:
Further, there are still constructs that existed up until recently, that have to be considered. For example, Louisiana folks, you may remember that even in the 21st century, there are still communities that have had a separate prom for blacks and whites. As surreal as that situation sounds, there’s merit that racism propagated these actions. Almost all black folks nationwide have roots in the rural south, and these situations and folks that experienced these things are still alive.
Can you admit this is rare, like very very rare? I've never even heard of this.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:29 pm to VADawg
You ignorant pos...It has everything to do with it.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:32 pm to RyleD
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You ignorant pos...It has everything to do with it.
So you're telling me that people alive right now were responsible for the actions of people who lived 150 years ago?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:37 pm to VADawg
Yes, when it comes to hatred, it is ingrained. What did your dad tell you about blacks,? what did his dad tell him, and so on, do you think it’s a coincidence you are “irritated” by them.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 2:05 am to tiggerthetooth
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Can you admit this is rare, like very very rare? I've never even heard of this.
Link
LINK 2
Another link, this one at West Feliciana.
While the prom incident in particular may not be common in bigger cities, it still happens in rural areas. In the city limits of the bigger cities of this poorer state, public schools were abandoned by anyone that could afford it, which is a reality whether we agree on the reasons or not. The kids who went to those proms I listed are in their mid-20's now.
For example, another that I read about in BR was allowing black members in BR country club. See This thread on the BRCC membership. There are other examples of segregated activities, but these are two notable ones in the south LA area I can remember off the top of my head. I think there wAs a town having two different parades as well.
That being said, it’s not an indictment on a particular race, or saying that all of a group of people are racist or anything like that, but it does still exist at some point. It’s getting better, and will continue to improve with time as the old guard dies off.
Essentially, if the reality/problems of some are different, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or problems are non-existent. An analogous situation would be the problems of the first world vs the third world. If a mosquito bit me today, I wouldn't be thinkingo about it beyond killing it; but, if all I knew was some third world country I'd be thinking the mosquito could kill me.
It makes sense. Why waste time thinking about what doesn't impact you? I'd bet that in the prom case, the community (white and black) didn't think about it, it'd been going on for so long.
Some things are more subliminal, but it's there.
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 2:22 am
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:07 am to RyleD
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Yes, when it comes to hatred, it is ingrained. What did your dad tell you about blacks,? what did his dad tell him, and so on.
Absolutely nothing.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:17 am to RyleD
quote:This may come as a surprise to you... but most white families aren't obsessed with race like many black people are. Many black people view their whole identity through the color of their skin. White people don't, and they don't even really talk about race. Their dads didn't tell their kids anything about black people.
What did your dad tell you about blacks,? what did his dad tell him, and so on, do you think it’s a coincidence you are “irritated” by them.
And obviously I understand why race is a big part of black family discussions, but I'm just trying to let you know that it isn't the same for white families. They don't discuss race like black families do.
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 8:21 am
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