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Raiders of the Lost Ark vs. Last Crusade

Posted on 8/31/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/31/19 at 10:56 pm
This is one of those series where I’m torn as to what my favorite film is. I think Temple of Doom is great and I like it a lot, it’s just competing with two better films in the trilogy.

Between Raiders and Last Crusade, Raiders has the best intro sequence and arguably one of the best character reveals ever when Indy whips the pistol out the guy’s hand and walks out from the shadows. I like it a lot more than the Coronado intro with teenage Indy in Last Crusade.

But Last Crusade has Sean Connery in one of his best performances. The chemistry between him and Ford is amazing.

Donovan’s death sequence in Last Crusade is awesome, but the deaths of Belloq and the Nazis is one of the best death sequences in an action film ever, especially with the exploding head.

Both have plot devices that I love a lot and very satisfying endings. Raiders does have more mystery because the Ark is not as well known and defined as the Holy Grail. But Elsa is infinitely more interesting than Marion, who is annoying af.

I kind of lean towards Last Crusade as my favorite if I’m forced to pick one, with Connery and the Grail plot carrying it over the edge, but Raiders is still a fricking amazing film.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 11:02 pm to
Last Crusade is just so good. I think it's the best adventure film of all time.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/31/19 at 11:14 pm to
This is a fair argument. The Last Crusade is a better movie, but Raiders of the Lost Ark is the original. People feel the same way about The Empire Strikes Back vs A New Hope and The Two Towers vs The Fellowship of the Ring.

In reality, they're all great movies. So you can't go wrong.
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/31/19 at 11:17 pm to
Raiders is clearly ahead of last crusade IMO.

Crusade is great tho.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/31/19 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

This is one of those series where I’m torn as to what my favorite film is.


While I am not torn, I get it. Last Crusade is a great film. Of the two, though, Raiders stands out from start to finish, top to bottom. About the only thing Last Crusade might have a little edge is Connery. But, I think the blonde drags it down some. Quite the looker compared to Karen Allen, but Allen a better actress, IMHO.

I don't think either romance story is particularly outstanding, but the one in Raiders feels less forced.

Temple of Doom gets a lot of unfair criticism, IMHO. While I don't think it compares to the other 2 films in the series, it's fun and should get more love from Indy fans.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4668 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 11:20 pm to
Last Crusade is the more fun re-watch but Raiders is the better film IMO.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 11:38 pm to
The Last Crusade
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18968 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:46 am to
Raiders, and this isn’t close
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11011 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:45 am to
Raiders is superior on a couple of levels. It had more atmosphere and eeriness. Old Testament seriousness, mixed with the right amount of comedy. Great casting all around.

Last Crusade was great but relied almost solely on Ford and Connery’s chemistry and comedic timing. Which they pulled off beautifully.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76652 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:06 am to
Why do y’all act like Indiana Jones only has three movies
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29275 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:41 am to
Last Crusade is fricking excellent, but I still Raiders was better.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 2:12 pm to
Raiders and it isn’t close

Last Crusade was great but Raiders is one of my favorite of all time
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:24 pm to
For me it’s Raiders and it’s not close. Last Crusade is good but like other part 3s of that era Return of the Jedi, BTTF III even Godfather III it mirrors the first one
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:34 pm to
Temple of Doom > the rest
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 8:49 pm to
Raiders is arguably the greatest film of all time. I like Last Crusade but this isn’t even a question IMO.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21871 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:27 pm to
I like Last Crusade more, but both are generational spectacles
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4351 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 7:31 am to
Just a bit of trivia: The opening scene of LC was filmed at Double Arch at Arches National Park.

But I prefer Raiders as a film.
This post was edited on 9/2/19 at 7:31 am
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22096 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Elsa is infinitely more interesting than Marion


I dunno man, young Karen Allen was adorable - but I’m a Mary Ann over Ginger kinda guy.



This post was edited on 9/2/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10464 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 11:57 am to
Raiders is my pick for the best movie ever.

Last Crusade is a very good movie. It doesn't have as good action scenes as Raiders, though. Raiders has such iconic scenes like the ball and shooting the swordsman. Last Crusade is good, but not on that same level.

Also, Raiders basically created its own path. Last Crusade had a readymade cast and plugged Connery in. Connery was great, and the father/son dynamic is one of the best parts of Last Crusade. Raiders built the character from scratch.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22508 posts
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:33 pm to
Raiders! Nobody did it better. But Last Crusade is a great runner up, thanks to Sean and Ford.
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