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re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?

Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:41 am to
Posted by ConwayGamecock
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:41 am to
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A more serious answer- SK and Singapore and a few other places relied way heavily on the surveillance state. Phone alerts and location reporting and extremely intrusive government intervention to identify and use technology.to isolate the infected, paired with a cultural obedience to central directives. They experienced SARS and other infectious diseases to build a model of intervention that ignored privacy, to the benefit of public health.



Sounds like you need to read more boards. South Korea is not a surveillance state. And every preventative process you just described, has absolutely NOTHING to do with what methods South Korea actually used, against COVID-19. You need to take your imagination to Hollywood.....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:46 am to
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Sounds like you need to read more boards. South Korea is not a surveillance state. And every preventative process you just described, has absolutely NOTHING to do with what methods South Korea actually used,


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South Korea has gone a step further than other countries, tracking individuals' phones and creating a publicly available map to allow other citizens to check whether they may have crossed paths with any coronavirus patients.

The tracking data that goes into the map isn't limited to mobile phone data, credit card records and even face-to-face interviews with patients are being used to build a retroactive map of where they've been.

Not only is the map there for citizens to check, but the South Korean government is using it to proactively send regional text messages warning people they may have come into contact with someone carrying the virus.


Coronavirus: South Korea’s success in controlling disease is due to its acceptance of surveillance

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South Korea has been widely praised for its management of the outbreak and spread of the coronavirus disease COVID-19. The focus has largely been on South Korea’s enormous virus testing programme.

What hasn’t been so widely reported is the country’s heavy use of surveillance technology, notably CCTV and the tracking of bank card and mobile phone usage, to identify who to test in the first place. And this is an important lesson for more liberal countries that might be less tolerant of such privacy invading measures but are hoping to emulate South Korea’s success.


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First, credit and debit cards. South Korea has the highest proportion of cashless transactions in the world. By tracking transactions, it’s possible to draw a card user’s movements on the map.


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Finally, CCTV cameras also enable authorities to identify people who have been in contact with COVID-19 patients. In 2014, South Korean cities had over 8 million CCTV cameras, or one camera per 6.3 people. In 2010, everyone was captured an average of 83.1 times per day and every nine seconds while travelling. These figures are likely to be much higher today. Considering the physical size of the country, it is safe to say South Korea has one of the highest densities of surveillance technology in the world.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:39 am to
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And every preventative process you just described, has absolutely NOTHING to do with what methods South Korea actually used, against COVID-19. You need to take your imagination to Hollywood.....


What?It's exactly what SK did.They turned into police state LINK

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After the 2015 MERS outbreak, South Korea developed new procedures and revised laws to enable more aggressive contact-tracing. The government was given the ability to access citizens’ credit card records, cellphone GPS data, bank records, and the wide-ranging network of security cameras. 

South Korea has the highest proportion of cashless transactions in the world and one of the world’s highest rates of cellphone ownership, along with millions of security cameras.

During dangerous epidemics, authorities have warrantless access to the private data. 

Once someone is confirmed with COVID-19, the government can retrace their movements and alert, notify, and if necessary, quarantine others who may have come into contact with them. Quarantined people are required to download a monitoring app that alerts authorities if they break isolation. 




Good luck with getting warrentless access to phone records and bank records in this country
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 7:40 am
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