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re: The season is in trouble guys

Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:56 pm to
There's not going to be a season. Just prepare yourself already.

We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world - and fricked it up royally
Posted by Kester5144
Member since Apr 2020
444 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:00 pm to
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We had a real chance to beat this


Quarantine ourselves indefinitely so the virus lingers does nothing but linger around, and then it spread like wildfire mid season?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69355 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:00 pm to
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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world - and fricked it up royally


I know you have an agenda, but this talking point is just not true. Even many on your own team (nate silver, etc) are warning against this mindset.

The parts of the country seeing a "surge" are areas that never really were hit hard in april and may. CA, tx, fl, az, etc

Read this

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What happened is that some parts of America, mostly the New York City area and Detroit, had horrific outbreaks in March, and they are now tapering off. Today, a few other parts that had mostly avoided the virus — Florida, Texas, and Arizona — are finally seeing an increase in cases.

If you layer the regions on top of one another, it looks like a second wave. But if you separate them out, it looks like different places are getting hit at different times.




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So, when you look more closely, what appeared to be two waves in the same country is more accurately described as differently timed waves in different regions.


The part of the country that that was hit same time as europe- NY, NJ, CT, RI, PA- is following a curve identical to france and spain and italy.

It is to be expected that you will see an uptick after a reopening. What matters is hospital capacity and nursing home/elderly protection.
This post was edited on 7/3/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7850 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:02 pm to
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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world - and fricked it up royally




Oh, we're going to beat it to the same extent as most everyone else. By the Fall, deaths will probably be way, way down. But people are so squeamish at this point that no risk of any kind can be taken when it comes to this "deadly" virus that kills less than .25% of people it infects.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:05 pm to
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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world

Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4313 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:47 am to
Like we beat influenza?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39634 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 9:15 am to
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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world

You’re an idiot. The best any country in the world has done has not eradicated it, which is what we would need in order to be able to have football stadiums packed. Other than that, we would need immunity, and we’re doing better than most toward that.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8795 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:47 pm to
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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world - and fricked it up royally


Care to elaborate?
Posted by SgtDonnyDonowitz
Member since Jun 2020
162 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 7:02 pm to
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There's not going to be a season. Just prepare yourself already.

We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world - and fricked it up royally



What a stupid media manufactured narrative
Posted by pjgary
Lafayette, LA
Member since Oct 2005
129 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:41 pm to
Bull. The "second wave" is fear mongering nothing to see "we want mail in ballots with no ID required ploy that the left and colluding MSM all to eagerly want to manufacture and push.

Do you want evidence? Look no further than the deaths. Since April, the deaths have gone done, consistently, week after week, day after day, month after month. Notice once the race war distraction started to wane, the media and left started pushing on Covid19 again. Except this time, instead of showing the dubious death totals that were glued to every graphic and broadcast until May 25, now they aren't mentioning deaths. They're harping on positive tests.

"What about all these positives tests?" Go to the cdc.gov website, and you will find plainly stated that a positive test does not mean you have Covid19. In fact, if you have had any illness this year in the corona family - such as the common cold - your test will come back as positive.

Secondly, the amount of "cases" isn't individual people who've tested positive; it's the amount of positive tests reported that day.

Let's say I work for a company that takes your temperature daily, and requires all employees to be tested once it is reported one has gotten Covid19. If you are asymptomatic but have a test come back as positive, you will be required to have a negative result before you can return to work. So Monday my test is positive. I never develop a symptom, and for the next two weeks i get tested every 3 days. In that time, I have 7 positives, and my eight test finally gives a negative. That counts as 7 new cases of Covid19, as opposed to 1.

Now, lets talk hospitalizations. Pay very close attention to how this is reported. There is a vast difference between "hospitalizations" and hospitalizations specifically for Covid19. While all "non-essential" surgeries and such were shut down during the lockdown, almost every hospital (with the exception of NY) was operating at 15% capacity. As soon as the lockdown started to lift, hip replacements and other such surgeries were finally allowed. "Normal" hospital visits started to occur again. Most MSM reporting focused only on total hospitalization numbers and did not distinguish whether someone was actually admitted to the hospital for Covid19 or that knee replacement or rotor cuff repair.

All peer reviewed scientific study contradicts nearly everything the MSM has stated about Covid19 and the "second wave".

According the the science of the left and MSM, you may gather in protest by the thousands, yell at the top of your lungs, wear no masks, and this is perfectly safe. Sing at church and you are putting everyone in danger. You can go to the grocery store or walmart at the height of the pandemic and be safe with a mask, but voting in person, running a business, going to church, or staying incarcerated is dangerous, as the mask doesn't seem to work in all those circumstances.

The only thing we did that fricked it up royally was listen to Tony Fauci and the Scarf Queen, who've both contradicted themselves countless times on every aspect of Covid19. Lockdown was the frick up.

Washing your hands often, staying home if you are sick, being a responsible adult, and isolation/segregation of those with compromised immune systems such as the elderly in nursing homes - that is the correct course of action. Forcing perfectly healthy Americans to not go about their daily routine does nothing but weaken the immune system and prolong the life of the virus.

Yet we see the opposite in states run by the far Left. 43% of all reported Covid19 deaths occurred in nursing homes. Very corrupt blue governors forced elderly with Covid19 out of the hospital and into the nursing homes. Didn't happen in red states. Here's some perspective - India has 1.366 billion people. New York City has 8.6 million. New York City has almost 10x more Covid19 deaths than all of India. Easy to jack that number when every death is counted as Covid19, and when you force covid infected elderly citizens into nursing homes.

In all the world of 7+ billion people, there have been less deaths of children from Covid19 than the fingers on one hand. Over 70% of all Covid19 deaths are aged 65 or older. The mortality rate is actually very very close to seasonal flu.

Now, go to worldmeters and look at the average amount of deaths per day each year as far back as you want to go. I only went back to 2015 because I'm lazy, but that makes 6 years of data. The average number of deaths in the US from Jan 1 thru June 30, is almost exactly the same number of deaths in the US we have had this year in that same timespan. It is almost exactly the same if you take data from US as a whole, or by state. CA (a state with 40 million people) averages about 705 deaths per day. That's not changed. Whether we call a death by heart attack a coronary or covid19, it doesn't change the fact that no more people have died the first six months of this year than any other year.

What is fricked up royally is the public and the right have not questioned the left. They've allowed the left and MSM to push this false narrative and have not demanded science.

Speaking of science - and if you work in HSE or offshore you'll appreciate this - a Covid19 particle is .03 microns. A surgical mask - any mask other than a fit tested N95 or a respirator - will only block a particle 100 microns or larger. If you'd like a visual to put that in scale, look at a floor tile - 12" x 12", 1 sq ft. Imagine a building that is 10,000 square foot - a building 100 ft long and 100 ft wide, containing 10,000 tiles. Any mask you wear won't block anything smaller than 10,000 tiles between each weave. A covid19 particle would be the size of 3 of those 10,000 tiles. Every mask not other than N95 or full face respirator will allow 3,333 covid19 particles to pass in any one spot before it blocks one.

Furthermore, the minute you put a mask on, your oxygen level drops from the minimum 19.5% you need to live and work safely to 17.5%. You can verify this easily with a "sniffer" offhsore or at any industrial workplace such as a refinery or plant where sniffers are used to check for dangerous gasses and oxygen levels. Or just google the many HSE employees who have posted videos illustrating this.

Long story short, if you believe anything the mainstream media and left are saying about Covid19, you are a fool. Every damn peer reviewed study in the US and abroad -- the actual real science, contradicts this "pandemic" and proves, without a doubt, it is no more dangerous than a normal flu season. We don't need to shut anything down, and their are numerous countries who haven't, and their numbers are nearly exponentially better than those that have.


Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12084 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:58 am to
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There's not going to be a season


could be true.

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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world - and fricked it up royally


But not because that makes any sense.
Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:03 am to
This take is just not true. First off New York has more deaths than Florida yesterday. Second off, overall deaths continue to drop ppl continue to focus on overall cases and not death rates and deaths which have both dropped
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40859 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:07 am to
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We had a real chance to beat this - like almost every other country in the world


Howso?
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