re: Ubisoft releasing story trailer for Star Wars Outlaws April 9

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I spent years enjoying my time posting on the PT before it devolved into the abject shithole that it is now

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That’s exactly how i felt about sports and sports media until about 2020. And SNL until about 2016.

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My enjoyment of TD is lessened because of it. It’s my preference that the forums I still do post on, and enjoy, don’t get overrun by the same kind of idiocy that the PT was.

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for clarity purposes, what type of idiocy are we talking about?

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That’s exactly how i felt about sports and sports media until about 2020. And SNL until about 2016.

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Completely get it.

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for clarity purposes, what type of idiocy are we talking about?

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The kind of idiocy that feels compelled to inject rabid team politics into every god damned thing, like replying to a new game trailer, with facially, zero political content with this:

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I hope I’m wrong and this game is great. But I just have no desire to play as a main character that looks like she cried when Trump won in 2016.

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And before you ask, yes, I would have had the exact same reaction if the post said “…when Biden won in 2020.”

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The kind of idiocy that feels compelled to inject rabid team politics into every god damned thing, like replying to a new game trailer, with facially, zero political content with this:

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This stuff has been pushed in video games and is getting a bit tiresome.

I liked Spiderman 2 but it really lowered my excitement when they threw in the climate change bullshite. Oh this again... yeah no thanks.

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This stuff has been pushed in video games and is getting a bit tiresome. I liked Spiderman 2 but it really lowered my excitement when they threw in the climate change bullshite. Oh this again... yeah no thanks.

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Which again, I get. But we can at least wait to react until there’s something legitimate to react to? Blowing a gasket simply because the protagonist is female is just silly. Blowing a gasket because the female protagonist is only kinda cute instead of gorgeous borders on braindead.

On the other hand, assuming that an Ubisoft game is likely to be dogshit is more than reasonable

let’s say i believe you.

i also didn’t appreciate when every video game i logged into in 2020 had to remind me that certain lives matter.

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let’s say i believe you. i also didn’t appreciate when every video game i logged into in 2020 had to remind me that certain lives matter.

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I get it. And I recall back then there being a thread with people bitching about a BLM mural that was part of a mission (or something along those lines; I never played the game) in Miles Morales. And regardless of how I personally feel about the nuances of that debate, I thought that was a perfectly reasonable conversation to have on this board.

I simply don’t think similarly about the comments made thus far in this thread about the protagonist of this game.

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Blowing a gasket simply because the protagonist is female is just silly.

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You seem to be under the impression their choice of protagonist was at random and not at all about a larger mindset with the groups/industry that basically gatekeep all modern content.


You think gaming companies don't know their exact demo? They know exactly who buys their games and plays them.

The female protagonist movement in very male-dominated IPs and content is about sending a message. It's a "you need to learn your lesson" move and it's no longer hidden within the broader art of the content but obnoxiously plastered into every element of film/game making.


Are boys drawn to homely looking 30-plus wannabe male behaving women? They've never been. Never in history. It's not a debate.

This is a "frick you little incel nerd gamers and your ways". That's what gamer gate was, that's what all of this is, it's in marvel, star wars, etc.


Notice they don't create entire new stories or content to display their fanfic female characters? Because that's not going to put their trash narrative in front of the right audience they want to lecture.

This is what's missing for some folks in here. You're missing the broader context on the gaming/movie industry and the dogmatic worldviews they want to inflict on their customers. It's a game for you, but ITS A CRUSADE for them...it's a religious revival for them. It's as important for them to lecture you on female empowerment as it is a Jehovahs Witness to go door to door asking you to join their faith.

You have to understand the insane religiosity of their faith in their progressive politics. It's wildly radical and intolerant.

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I may find its political “critique” of libertarianism (or more accurately, Objectivism) to be off base, but Bioshock is still one of my favorite gaming experiences of all time, as the execution of the game, and game world, was incredible. It

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100%. LOVE BIOSHOCK. And I disagree on it's take on libertarianism is as well.

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It seems like a recent phenomenon that game devs have decided that making a political statement is not only necessary, but sufficient, to making a good game. That’s what keeps burning them.

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It's not just that there's politics, it's more that it's the same exact left wing political theories/slogans/movements, etc. In every single piece of content.

It would be way more interesting if other political perspectives were allowed, but that's not what's happening as it's always the same exact cohort dictating everything.

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Bioshock 2 is a fine game, but I don’t think it’s as good as Bioshock 1, and the former attacks a political ideology I hate while the latter (at least claims to) attack a political ideology I espouse.

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I agree, I've always posited that Bioshock 1 is not the scathing critique of objectivism that everyone on Reddit thinks it is.