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re: Unlimited resources, time included
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:The amateur can do 2 out of 3 on the same hole even. Good amateurs can even do it on a tournament caliber course once or twice in 10 rounds if they’re playing well.
An amateur CAN hit a shot to within 3 feet from 125 out. An amateur CAN sink a 23 footer for birdie. An amateur CAN stripe a drive 295+ in the middle of the fairway.
The pro will do it 20 plus in the same conditions if they’re on. 10 plus if they’re not.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:24 pm to Tigerbait1998
Most people with unlimited time and resources couldn't even become scratch golfers, let alone go Pro.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:54 am to Tigerbait1998
I think a lot of you are over estimating the physical difficulty, I think in 3 years from where I am now I could have the shots. You’re also under estimating how much better you’ll get practicing
8 hours a day 6 days a week with the best instruction available.
8 hours a day 6 days a week with the best instruction available.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:28 am to Tigerbait1998
I think I could easily become a plus handicap
But being a tennis player from youth, I imagine golf is very similar that being brought up in it from a young age, there is certain mental approaches and things you just can’t learn adjust to as an adult. I don’t see many people at all in the world being able to become pro if this analogy is taking up the unlimited resources as an adult
But being a tennis player from youth, I imagine golf is very similar that being brought up in it from a young age, there is certain mental approaches and things you just can’t learn adjust to as an adult. I don’t see many people at all in the world being able to become pro if this analogy is taking up the unlimited resources as an adult
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:49 am to lsupride87
Pretty sure one has to have begun the more coordination intensive sports by about 12 to have much hope of being elite. Something about the brain development is critical.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:55 am to AlxTgr
I haven’t played more than 4 hours of tennis total since I was 23(36 now)
I have people I know that were really good athletes that became huge into tennis after college. And they are legit now from a physical standpoint. They have all the strokes and are far better conditioned than me. They are very good 5.0 level players
A few have asked me to come play a set recently. I obliged. I killed them. Not because my actual physical game is better at this point, but because they just don’t setup points properly, don’t know when to press and when to lay off etc etc. It’s just something that you have naturally when you started young
I would imagine gold is similar in terms of how you see a course, read a putt, attack a green etc etc
Another thing, I can watch two tennis players that are both very good hit for 10 minutes. I can instantly tell you if they started tennis young or picked it up later in life just by certain movements and mannerisms. I would bet golfers that started young and played elite levels can do the same
I have people I know that were really good athletes that became huge into tennis after college. And they are legit now from a physical standpoint. They have all the strokes and are far better conditioned than me. They are very good 5.0 level players
A few have asked me to come play a set recently. I obliged. I killed them. Not because my actual physical game is better at this point, but because they just don’t setup points properly, don’t know when to press and when to lay off etc etc. It’s just something that you have naturally when you started young
I would imagine gold is similar in terms of how you see a course, read a putt, attack a green etc etc
Another thing, I can watch two tennis players that are both very good hit for 10 minutes. I can instantly tell you if they started tennis young or picked it up later in life just by certain movements and mannerisms. I would bet golfers that started young and played elite levels can do the same
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 10:58 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:20 pm to lsupride87
Hockey is the same way. I see guys playing adult league and they can skate and shoot and stuff but I can instantly tell if they played the game growing up. They lack the vision to see the ice, plays developing, they do dumb things with the puck, etc.
To be elite you have to start early. It has to do with brain and spine development. There is a book out there, 10,000 Hours, or something like that it goes into athletic development.
As to the question by OP, unlimited time and resources in my physical prime I might have been able to break 70 but doubtful. Today, I'd be happy to break 80 and breaking 75, I might cry.
To be elite you have to start early. It has to do with brain and spine development. There is a book out there, 10,000 Hours, or something like that it goes into athletic development.
As to the question by OP, unlimited time and resources in my physical prime I might have been able to break 70 but doubtful. Today, I'd be happy to break 80 and breaking 75, I might cry.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 5:20 am to Tigerbait1998
quote:
I think a lot of you are over estimating the physical difficulty, I think in 3 years from where I am now I could have the shots. You’re also under estimating how much better you’ll get practicing 8 hours a day 6 days a week with the best instruction available.
quote:
I think a lot of you are over estimating the physical difficulty, I think in 3 years from where I am now I could have the shots. You’re also under estimating how much better you’ll get practicing 8 hours a day 6 days a week with the best instruction available.
I’ve seen several really great junior golfers with all the time I the world, lessons, etc.
These kids are home schooled to make sure they get their golf in everyday.
I hope one of them makes it big, but as good as they are, the chances are a fraction of a fraction of 1%.
Charley Woods is a good junior golfer. Nobody has more money, time, or access to the best instruction. I hope he makes it, but the odds are still long.
I think I read the average PGA tour pro is like a plus 5 or something. Elite golf is rarefied air.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:07 pm to BallChamp00
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Yes.
A man of few words. I like it. Why do you think so?
Me? Absolutely not. When I played the most I got down to a 7.8 but that was with very little actual practice. I'm sure I could've gotten to scratch maybe but that's about it. Those days have long since sailed.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:31 pm to Tigerbait1998
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Let’s say you had an inexhaustible amount of time and money, and therefore unrestricted access to the best equipment, teachers, and facilities, do you think that you (in your athletic prime) could have earned a PGA tour card?
There are thousands of golfers around the world who have unlimited time and resources for golf…yet can’t earn a tour card. Golf is hard and requires elite talent. You either have it or you don’t
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 1:38 pm
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