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Baseball proves you can have a ton of talent, but that doesn't always equate to success!

Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:45 am
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:45 am
In sports, most fans think a lot of talent will automatically turn into wins, but that's not always the case. The teams that have good leadership, chemistry, talent, experience, confidence, drive to win and the "it" factor are much more likely to beat a team that is supremely talented almost every time!

Last year's LSU baseball team had all that, with the most important part of that formula is having the "it" factor. Talent is nice to have, but it takes a lot more than that to win consistently. When last year's team was in a close game, you knew they were going to somehow find a way to win. This year's team doesn't have that confidence, leadership, strong desire to win and clearly don't have the "it factor."

This year's team has talent, but it's void of a lot of the other key factors that are needed to be elite. I believe this year's team has the makings of becoming a great team down the road, but the only problem with that is the NIL/transfer portal almost guarantees there will be a lot of new faces on the team next year.

I guess, it is what it is!
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
2291 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:48 am to
We have way too many young guys playing in key spots for them to have “it” factors.

Neal, Kling, Jones, Miliam.


They can be those “it” guys soon. But right now too young.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:04 pm to
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We have way too many young guys playing in key spots for them to have “it” factors.


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Neal, Kling, Jones


Sophomores aren't young in college baseball, especially in the case of Kling who is draft-eligible this season.
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:25 pm to
I'm not sure this team does have a ton of talent.....
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278287 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:30 pm to
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Sophomores aren't young in college baseball,


Sophomores in a vacuum are definitely still young in terms of development
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:33 pm to
What this year has told me is that the MLB scouts are pretty smart. None of our freshman are pro ready.

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70156 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Sophomores aren't young in college baseball, especially in the case of Kling who is draft-eligible this season.


Paxton Kling has 13 more career SEC plate appearances than Steven Milam.

ETA: That's about one weekend.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20986 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:36 pm to
Texas aTm already proved that.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Paxton Kling has 13 more career SEC plate appearances than Steven Milam.

ETA: That's about one weekend.


I mean you can make the parameters however you want, fact of the matter is Kling isn't where we'd thought he'd be at this point in his career.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:37 pm to
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What this year has told me is that the MLB scouts are pretty smart. None of our freshman are pro ready.


You have an unreasonably high opinion of complex league baseball apparently.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70156 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:38 pm to
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I mean you can make the parameters however you want, fact of the matter is Kling isn't where we'd thought he'd be at this point in his career.


I'm not disagreeing. But in terms of development, he's still young. Both things can be true.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:40 pm to
Paxton Kling gives me big time Mo Hampton vibes
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:40 pm to
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I'm not disagreeing. But in terms of development, he's still young. Both things can be true.


Saying Kling's development is close to Milam's development based on SEC AB's is a tad disingenuous considering Kling has been in the system a full year more than Milam. There's more to devel than SEC AB's.

I say this as someone who thinks Kling is and will always be a better all-around baseball player than Milam.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Paxton Kling gives me big time Mo Hampton vibes


Lol no. Kling actually plays
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:42 pm to
Sometimes its just chemistry. I've seen it before.

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70156 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Saying Kling's development is close to Milam's development based on SEC AB's is a tad disingenuous considering Kling has been in the system a full year more than Milam.


And he was hurt for a lot of that year.

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There's more to devel than SEC AB's.


Clearly, but at some point you have to be able to look at shorthand stats and approximate things. We're never going to have all the information, so proxies help with the conversation.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7714 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:47 pm to
Well yeah but they were both big time recruits with tons of “talent” who have been total busts. At least up to this point.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:48 pm to
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But in terms of development, he's still young. Both things can be true.


Yap, this.

It’s crazy how much expectations sway the way different players are viewed.

Yea, Kling is still young & has to improve. But he didn’t ask for the target on his back. Fans will hold that against him until he is gone. It’s so stupid
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7714 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:52 pm to
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It’s crazy how much expectations sway the way different players are viewed.

Part of that is because there are guys like you who talk them up and then they underperform. Kling, Hurd, and Neal are good examples. Whenever you have guys talking about how good Braswell is defensively, how much Neal gets on base, etc and those things turn out not to be true, it's going to get people's attention.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:09 pm to
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Yea, Kling is still young & has to improve. But he didn’t ask for the target on his back. Fans will hold that against him until he is gone. It’s so stupid


I agree and have said the expectations Jay placed on him last year "he could be the next Dylan Crews" always set him up to fail, but to also act like he has so much time left when this could conceivably be his last year here is just as dumb.
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