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re: How can anyone honestly say Miles got out coached?

Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3270 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:10 pm to
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. I think Les and his staffs inability to develop QBs, and the ineptness on offense because of our poor QB is what helped us lose. Les has a big weakness in football strategy as it relates to personnel decisions, tendencies and exploiting opponets weaknesses.


I'd agree with you if we weren't one year removed from the most prolific offense in LSU history. Miles was the coach then too.

Our passing game is largely dependent on true freshmen. That's going to be a problem for anyone.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:10 pm to
The play calling before half really factored into the outcome of the game. I had no problem with LSU trying to do something with that possession because every possession counts. But if you're going to pass the ball (with a QB who only has a few completions), don't throw a short, high risk/low reward pass in traffic with a minute left near midfield. Throw it much further down field because he generally throws those passes well and if it does get picked, Bama will be way down field and probably won't get any points. LSU received the ball in the 2nd half, so I didn't understand that risk at all.

Those 3 points were huge in the end and we basically gave it to them.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:11 pm to
I would agree but you have to be careful when giving an outlier more credit than it deserves. Time will tell, though.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:12 pm to
Excellent OP.

I'm pissed we lost. But the loss isn't on the game plan or getting out coached.

Dukke V will be here any minute to tell you you're a dumbass.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93772 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:14 pm to
Here's my thoughts that I posted earlier ....

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It's like some sort of miracle was supposed to happen. Everyone in the world knew the gameplan going in because of limitations at qb.

Yet morons continue to believe that Jennings and the plan around him is to chunk the ball constantly.

Most of these peoppeople are incredibly stupid. It's so hard for me to read this garbage because everyone just HAS to find someone to blame.

Blame the dropped passes, blame the stupid PF that took them off the 5 yard line. Blame the stupid kicker thay kicked the squib kick out of bounds.

The squib is designed to take time off the clock. It's done at the end of halves evert week and when it's executed correctly, it takes ten seconds off the clock. Anyone that watches football knows that. Kicking out of the endzone doesn't take time off the clock, period.

Yet, the coaching told him to kick the ball out of bounds? That shite was the coaches fault? The players aren't allowed to catch blame?

Goddamn, 75% of MFers on this board are borderline fricking retarded

Hey derp look at me. Loss equals. Lame coaching derp

Blame the players this time. They were put in position at the end of the game multiple times to put the game away and they fricking blew it. Not the coaches.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203463 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:16 pm to
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LSU completely outplayed bama


In what way??????



quote:

. However, when you ask them to specify how Saban actually outcoached miles, and what role he played in the win...they can't tell you.


I have tried to tell you this but you will have NO part of it........... You are SOOOOOOOO Much fun to DESTROY...............
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3508 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:18 pm to
You thought they were so insightful that they needed to be posted again?
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Goddamn, 75% of MFers on this board are borderline fricking retarded


that, and the fact that many are only posing as LSU fans just here to troll.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

A lot of young xbox jockeys on this board


Just as bad as the Miles can do no wrong crowd.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

LSU completely outplayed bama In what way??????


OK, I'll bite:

Second half stats up to bs penalty in last minute.

Alabama:

1 First Down
32 total yards
TOP, I believe was about 8 minutes (can't remember specifically)


LSU:

12 First Downs
175 or so total yards
TOP, 22 minutes

Actually, you are right, the more I look at it...seems pretty even.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

I'd agree with you if we weren't one year removed from the most prolific offense in LSU history. Miles was the coach then too.


Yeah, but even with that offense, it took a miracle drive by Anthony Jennings to pull out a W at home against a winless-in-the-SEC Arkansas team at home in Tiger Stadium. And Bama ended up blowing us out, holding us to under 300 yards on offense and completely shutting down our running game. It took great talent being in the system three years for us to be pretty good on offense. In 2012, we had the 94th passing offense with Mett, OBJ, Landry, J. Hill, Ware and Ford on offense.

The best I have ever seen LSU's offense against a good D was that 2012 Bama game. We used a variety of plays and tried to attack the D in many ways.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93772 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:24 pm to
I'm sorry you're in the 75%
Posted by MFV
Member since Oct 2008
909 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:25 pm to
I don't think any reasonable person would suggest our staff was out coached last night. I think the frustration comes from the fact our passing game is so putrid. Youth is not an excuse 10 games into the season. We have too much talent to be as bad as we are.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I think the frustration comes from the fact our passing game is so putrid.


And although the coaches did a really good job with the game plan for the most part last night on game day, not developing your passing game and having your opponent beat you passing with a linebacker that converted to a QB is getting out coached. It's just that they're outcoaching them during the the season and in the offseason and not necessarily on game day.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10723 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:34 pm to
UUUHH we passed instead of running the ball which is our main stay. Could not execute a squib kick. Two of our players dropped easy passes which either cost us downs or a TD (Quinn and Jones). Our QB has not improved from the first game and could have Crawled for a first down instead of throwing up a prayer. We had a timeout to review the trapped pass catch by the Bama receiver. For the 2nd time in two three years we could not get a defensive stop in the final minutes.....I think all that equates to coaching in some fashion. And by the way I love Miles but I cant hide the truth.............
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99153 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:35 pm to
The only way he was outcoached was that the last LSU and Alabama series in regulation, and the overtime, were an object less in the discipline of a Saban team, and the lack of discipline of a Miles team.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

The only way he was outcoached was that the last LSU and Alabama series in regulation, and the overtime, were an object less in the discipline of a Saban team, and the lack of discipline of a Miles team.




You are saying lsu lost because of a Lack of discipline is hilarious considering the same play Bama players were hitting lsu after the play. But Saban teams are "disciplined". That was bull shite by the refs and not because Alabama was more "disciplined"
Posted by tjohn deaux
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Member since Feb 2007
10179 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:41 pm to
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A lot of young spoiled xbox jockeys on this board.




They are used to quitting without saving and replaying until they win. Can't take losing.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:44 pm to
we lost that game because of the stupid foul called at the end of regulation. if you need other reasons, four KEY dropped passes and a kick off out of bounds.

given our passing constraints, miles coached a hell of a game.

the refs changed the outcome of that game. that call was the worst I've seen in over 50 years. he did not have to throw that flag, esp over a little push in a very physical game.

I have never bought the concept that bama gets the calls or pays the refs but I damn sure am coming around after that call.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203463 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:44 pm to
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Second half stats up to bs penalty in last minute.


bs penalty??? As always... An excuse...
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