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re: If LSU wins out do they deserve to be in the playoffs?

Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:31 am to
The word "deserve" and the mindset of college athlete selection committees are usually mutually exclusive.

Its often better to be perceived as being worthy of inclusion than actually deserving the position.
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:31 am to
Neaux
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Not unless LSU wins the SEC. You can't keep out undefeated or 1 loss champs over a 2 loss team that didn't win their division.

Would Georgia have made it if there was a playoff in 2007?

This season has that kind of a feel.

Eta: Also LSU would have made the playoff in 2006 with 2 losses and without winning the division.

So you were saying?
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 10:34 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:38 am to
LSU needs help. Win out and get the help necessary to win the SECCG (Bama beats State and Auburn; Auburn beats Ole Miss; Ole Miss beats State; Georgia beats Auburn).

Additionally, we need two of the following:
1. Notre Dame loss
2. Two losses by FSU or none by Duke
3. A loss by each of KSU TCU Baylor
4. A loss by each of Utah Arizona AZSt Oregon
5. A loss by each of tOSU Sparty Huskers
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63694 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:40 am to
quote:

LSU needs help. Win out and get the help necessary to win the SECCG (Bama beats State and Auburn; Auburn beats Ole Miss; Ole Miss beats State; Georgia beats Auburn).

Additionally, we need two of the following:
1. Notre Dame loss
2. Two losses by FSU or none by Duke
3. A loss by each of KSU TCU Baylor
4. A loss by each of Utah Arizona AZSt Oregon
5. A loss by each of tOSU Sparty Huskers



I stand corrected. It's a lock.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:40 am to
Probably not - unless we get a lot of help from other teams. Its possible, but there would have to be mass chaos for it to happen.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

What if Miss State loses to Ole Miss and Alabama. Alabama loses to LSU Ole Miss loses to Auburn Then all SECW teams would have 2 or more losses
Head to head, division record, common opponents, all tied. Next up is combined record of cross-division opponents. Auburn almost certainly wins this (SC/UGA > the East opponents of the other four).

That's why it's important that Georgia beats Auburn. LSU wins a tie breaker with Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Alabama, but not with Auburn in there too.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203803 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

If LSU wins out do they deserve to be in the playoffs?



Nope..... But lets just focus on Bama for now K
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Eta: Also LSU would have made the playoff in 2006 with 2 losses and without winning the division
Something tells me that undefeated Boise State would have been given the 4 spot.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:45 am to
I simply HATE agreeing with PJ, But......
quote:

Nope..... But lets just focus on Bama for now K


For Christ's sake...
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:47 am to
well we know for a fact that they would put bama in there even if they finished second in the West. frick, they'll send them right to the title game.

considering how young the team is, a point in our favor for once that has actually gained traction nationally, losing to 2 top 5 teams early in the year and then beating 2 top 5 teams late would still be the best resume in the country.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60723 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Georgia 2007


List the undefeated or 1 loss conference champs they would have skipped. You missed that part of my post.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

In another thread, it was discussed how we could win the West with 2 losses which is completely possible still. If that happens and we Geaux on to Win the SECC game, we will be in the playoff. The selection committee has to pick the SEC Champion...even with 2 losses





We beat bama....LSU probably makes the top 10 again....I think Ole Miss loses AT LEAST 1 more....Auburn has a brutal schedule still....miss st is the team where I just don't see losing 3...unless we win some type of three way tie-breaker....

In any event....I'd be very pleased with a 10-2 regular season...hell, I'll be very happy with an 8-4 season if we beat bama...sets up nicely for next year.
Posted by JPenn91
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2012
454 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:53 am to
And that's assuming Alabama beats Auburn. So LSU would be 2-1 against those remaining three teams, if that scenario panned out.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Nope..... But lets just focus on Bama for now K
are we playing in the game?
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
62195 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:57 am to
Ask again on Thanksgiving weekend
Posted by rambeau504
NOLA Metro Area
Member since Oct 2014
309 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Not unless LSYou can't keep out undefeated or 1 loss champs over a 2 loss team that didn't win their division.

Unless we're talking about Bama
Posted by DirtyMike
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2014
1175 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 11:01 am to
I would imagine the committee would put a bit more thought into it than just selecting the top 4 ranked teams. If it comes down to taking a two loss SEC West team that was out of the SECCG or a one loss team from another conference that plays 1 or 2 ranked teams all year, who would you pick?
Posted by CanIPlay636
Member since Sep 2010
1193 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Winning the West and getting into the SECCG is unlikely with losses to Auburn and Moo State, but if we end up winning out do you think LSU has a shot at making the playoffs? Clearly, this team is playing at a much higher level than they were in the beginning of the season but would winning out be enough to convince the playoff committee that LSU deserves to be there?

What in Hell is going on around here Just a week ago, most of this board didn't believe we had a shot to beat Ole Miss, now we are talking about the SECCG and playoffs Why can't we just enjoy this win.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5535 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 11:06 am to
I'd take it but no way in hell we get in over a 1 loss team unless somehow we make it to SEC championship and win but that is unlikely also!
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