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re: When do you guys start to blame Jay?

Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:19 am to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28798 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:19 am to
fricking dumbass. Wish you idiots would go away and back another school.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4973 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:19 am to
I know I'm getting tired of watching other teams dance, have fun, wear gorilla mask, and have mojo and juice in their dugout.

While our dudes look like they are standing in a morgue. Our guys have no energy and barely go thru the motions. This team lacks enthusiasm which you need to win. That's on Jay to fix.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40009 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:27 am to
I started blaming Jay the day he was hired. I started crediting him then, also. Everything is the head coach's responsibility. I'll give him a break if he has bad injury luck, but that hasn't happened this year.

So far, the balance sheet tilts heavily in Jay's favor. He could finish this year last in the SEC and that would still be true.

If he has a bad year next season I'll start to question him.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37208 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:29 am to
When you are recruiting it’s east to see skill. It’s not as easy to see drive and character. Every player on out team was a stud on their high school / showcase teams who never dealt with adversity.

A college coach should not have to teach drive and character and motivation. But here we are
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7863 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:34 am to
quote:

He won that NC title with primarily Maineiri’s recruits.


Maineiri's players definitely had a big contribution,but to call it "primarily" would be dishonest.

Tommy White, Paul Skenes, Thacher Hurd, Ackenhausen, Jobert, Cooper , Guidry etc. were pretty damn important pieces and we don't win without them.

Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66475 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:34 am to


i think he can get a pass for a season, but i still believe this team will eventually turn it around.

also maybe this midweek loss will bring back sec wins. i'll trade non SEC losses for some SEC wins at this point.

florida has lost some horrible non SEC games all season long.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31098 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:35 am to
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So you refered something and didn’t even link it? Solid reply.



It was more than your OP deserved.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40009 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:37 am to
quote:

Who do you want to replace him with? Give a specific name.

I'm in Jay's corner, but "Who do you replace him with?" is not a legitimate question when considering firing him. We know that there are great up and coming coaches out there even if we don't know who they are. It is not our job to know who they are. I didn't even know who Skip Bertman or Nick Saban were when they were hired. Also, the word "specific" is fast becoming a crutch for middle-brows, taking it's place next to the word "literally". It doesn't add one thing to your sentence. You should have been broken of that habit in high school.

When it's time to fire a coach (It's absurd to even consider that with Jay) you fire him. Then you replace him with someone the AD thinks will be great. It doesn't matter in the least what posters on tigerdroppings think.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75321 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:38 am to
The 2010 team went 14-16 in SEC play after winning the CWS championship the year before.

Seems like it’s difficult to sustain consistency in college baseball.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37208 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Yes Wanaka, the batting coach. Guys looks like they are trying to hump a door knob when hitting in SEC play


That’s not coaching. That’s players rejecting their coaching and trying to wing it based on talent alone.

The mature players (Bingham, Braswell, White, Trav) aren’t doing this. And that’s why they have had the most success this season.

The players are not respecting the coaches.

So who is right? The coaches with national title cred, or the young immature spoiled players?
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
4497 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:49 am to
The coaching staff can recruit great and teach the X's and O's of the game and make sure the players are physically ready for the season, but at some point it takes the players to hold each other accountable and to execute on the field. Jay didn't commit 3 errors, walk too many batters, and only get 4 hits on Southern, the players did.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36976 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:51 am to
You could see issues weeks ago. The baseball experts of this board could not!
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19376 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:53 am to
It’s almost like we lost not one but two of the greatest college baseball players ever, several solid veterans, and an MLB level assistant coach or something

Wild right?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48244 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:56 am to
It is his fault, not only because the HC is always accountable for the record, good or bad but because he’s made poor choices specifically which have led to or compounded the problems we’re having. He's a championship coach and a great recruiter but he hasn’t managed this group well.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32159 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:11 am to
quote:

When do you guys start to blame Jay?


Probably once he is a little further out from his last national championship. And considering his last natty was 9 months and 7 days ago, I’m pretty confident in saying that’s gonna be a while.

And it’s not just THAT he won it, it’s how he won it. He was masterful in his decision-making. He pushed all the right buttons at just the right time to go on an historic run. The man knows what he’s doing. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

When it starts to be the rule, then we can question. Right now it’s the exception.

quote:

There is no excuse for what we are watching


Of course there is, and you already know it because you brought it up.

quote:

I don’t care how young or inexperienced these guys are


It’s not anyone’s fault, but your own that you choose to ignore that fact. You (along with several others here) think that just because we have LSU on our caps and TIGERS across the chest that we should steamroll everybody and that’s just not the case. We aren’t immune to growing pains. We have to deal with them just like everyone else.


This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by aruss15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
605 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:11 am to
Fans are allowed to expect more than being the 3rd worst team in the SEC right now. I don't think that it's unfair to criticize being dogshit. Do you?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48244 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:17 am to
A lot of our fans have adopted the hypocritical stance that when we win it’s all because of the great coach but when we lose none of it is his fault.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44271 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:19 am to
quote:

He's a championship coach and a great recruiter but he hasn’t managed this group well.




You spent all last season saying he was mismanaging the lineup as well.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8253 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:19 am to
I mean he’s the head coach so he always deserves some blame when the team isn’t performing. That doesn’t mean he needs to be fired
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48244 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:21 am to
That’s completely false, I pointed out that for stretches we were incredible on offense then lineup changes were made and we’d have dips in production but that went back and forth literally until the final game. That was all supported by data btw, it wasn’t an opinion, I just asked why.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 8:23 am
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