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Where is the relative weakness on this LSU offense?
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:03 pm
First of all, when you are talking about teams like Georgia, Alabama and LSU, “weak” is a relative term. All these teams have NFL bound players at multiple positions.
QB - Well it doesn’t look like qb is a weak spot, Daniels is a game breaker and first team preseason all SEC on several publications. With Nussmeier at backup, this has to be one of the better qb rooms in the country.
O Line - Kelly keeps talking about how experienced and deep his o-line is. Campbell is a consensus all sec first team pick who will protect Daniels on the blind side. He and Emery Jones have to be one of the better two tackles in the league. Heard would start right now for lots of teams. The interior o-line have all started at one time or another.
WR - Malik Nabers is another all sec preseason team player getting a lot of hype. How deep is this group? Some depth charts have Aaron Anderson on the third team. Wow. Thomas, Hilton and Lacy are all players. It’s a deep wr room. Anderson didn’t transfer to ride the bench, but Lacy is one of those do everything right guys who somehow is still listed as a starter.
TE - Mason Taylor as a freshman was a more complete tight end than LSU has had in a while. When they want to run the ball with two tight ends, Connor Galbreath looks more like an offensive tackle. His highlight reel of blocking people is a hoot, he’s a mauler. He’s got a bit of a Kyle Turley attitude. LSU picked up three really good freshman tight ends for depth. Pimpton and Markway both had big time offer sheets.
RB - I suppose if you have to pick a relative weakness, it’s at running back. There is no one guy that jumps out at you as a Sunday player. But it’s a lot deeper group than last year. But who could have predicted Clyde Hellaire would be a first round pick. My favorite is Josh Williams, reminds me of Jacob Hester as that guy that can get you that yard on 4th and 1.
Maybe I’m just falling for the hype, but this sure looks like an offense that can beat you in a lot of ways, starting with Daniels. I guess the running game is the question mark. The depth and experience is there with Diggs, Cain and Emery on the team. Then you have Goodwin, Holly and Jackson.
It’s kind of hard to call that rb room the offense soft spot. But if not there, then where? I guess maybe tight end if Taylor goes down.
Kelly has done a great job in a short time building a solid roster. At least on paper anyway.
We will know in a few weeks. I know I’m taking LSU and giving Florida State the 2 and 1/2 points. I always bet LSU anyway, but this year it feels like a good bet.
QB - Well it doesn’t look like qb is a weak spot, Daniels is a game breaker and first team preseason all SEC on several publications. With Nussmeier at backup, this has to be one of the better qb rooms in the country.
O Line - Kelly keeps talking about how experienced and deep his o-line is. Campbell is a consensus all sec first team pick who will protect Daniels on the blind side. He and Emery Jones have to be one of the better two tackles in the league. Heard would start right now for lots of teams. The interior o-line have all started at one time or another.
WR - Malik Nabers is another all sec preseason team player getting a lot of hype. How deep is this group? Some depth charts have Aaron Anderson on the third team. Wow. Thomas, Hilton and Lacy are all players. It’s a deep wr room. Anderson didn’t transfer to ride the bench, but Lacy is one of those do everything right guys who somehow is still listed as a starter.
TE - Mason Taylor as a freshman was a more complete tight end than LSU has had in a while. When they want to run the ball with two tight ends, Connor Galbreath looks more like an offensive tackle. His highlight reel of blocking people is a hoot, he’s a mauler. He’s got a bit of a Kyle Turley attitude. LSU picked up three really good freshman tight ends for depth. Pimpton and Markway both had big time offer sheets.
RB - I suppose if you have to pick a relative weakness, it’s at running back. There is no one guy that jumps out at you as a Sunday player. But it’s a lot deeper group than last year. But who could have predicted Clyde Hellaire would be a first round pick. My favorite is Josh Williams, reminds me of Jacob Hester as that guy that can get you that yard on 4th and 1.
Maybe I’m just falling for the hype, but this sure looks like an offense that can beat you in a lot of ways, starting with Daniels. I guess the running game is the question mark. The depth and experience is there with Diggs, Cain and Emery on the team. Then you have Goodwin, Holly and Jackson.
It’s kind of hard to call that rb room the offense soft spot. But if not there, then where? I guess maybe tight end if Taylor goes down.
Kelly has done a great job in a short time building a solid roster. At least on paper anyway.
We will know in a few weeks. I know I’m taking LSU and giving Florida State the 2 and 1/2 points. I always bet LSU anyway, but this year it feels like a good bet.
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:07 pm to paper tiger
It's QB until Daniels proves he can move the ball vertically with consistency, and I think he'll be just fine at that.
ETA: I'm really tired of some of you people not reading this part:
The offensive line is a huge positive.
The TE's are probably the best we've had.
There is an excellent #1 WR and a whole lot of talent behind him.
We have twice as many RB's as we had last year and 6 are solid veterans.
Daniels issues putting the ball downfield were well documented last season, so until we see him willing to throw some contested balls, QB is the relatively weak link.
And I think he'll be just fine.
ETA: I'm really tired of some of you people not reading this part:
quote:
and I think he'll be just fine at that
The offensive line is a huge positive.
The TE's are probably the best we've had.
There is an excellent #1 WR and a whole lot of talent behind him.
We have twice as many RB's as we had last year and 6 are solid veterans.
Daniels issues putting the ball downfield were well documented last season, so until we see him willing to throw some contested balls, QB is the relatively weak link.
And I think he'll be just fine.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:07 pm to paper tiger
Running back is the only answer. May be O-line, but have to see them more. Having JD as an extra option at rb, helps the situation though
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:07 pm to paper tiger
Not much of a weakness on the offensive side. There is talent and depth. I guess if you HAD to pick something it would be RB like you said. A dominant o-line can make average running backs look great though.
Defense is where we lack depth, but not talent.
Defense is where we lack depth, but not talent.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:09 pm to wadewilson
Agree. Im excited about daniels but i need to see him consistently pass the ball 15+ yards
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:09 pm to paper tiger
quote:
Well it doesn’t look like qb is a weak spot
Let me know when he can consistently complete passes over the middle and hit WRs in stride.
If he can do the two above with some success, the Tigers should win a bunch this year.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:10 pm to paper tiger
Running back and quarterback. With that said, we’re talking about really good to great at quarterback i.e. elevating from last season..
Running back is an unknown in my opinion. Lots of talent, but can one of them be elite.
Running back is an unknown in my opinion. Lots of talent, but can one of them be elite.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:11 pm to paper tiger
O-Line
We have enough experience as fans hearing from the coaching staff how experienced the O line will be only to be disappointed with injuries and clear shortcomings in the weight room. The RB stable is capable enough, and yes, the QB needs to manage his progressions quicker but the O Line is the most suspicious at this moment if either of those things will be possible.
We have enough experience as fans hearing from the coaching staff how experienced the O line will be only to be disappointed with injuries and clear shortcomings in the weight room. The RB stable is capable enough, and yes, the QB needs to manage his progressions quicker but the O Line is the most suspicious at this moment if either of those things will be possible.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:13 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:
Running back is the only answer. May be O-line, but have to see them more. Having JD as an extra option at rb, helps the situation though
We survived at RB last year, then doubled that position with equally talented guys, plus JD is still QB.
I think RB will be great.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:29 pm to paper tiger
With out weakness at DB, we will need to score lots of points
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:31 pm to paper tiger
Even with a bell cow like Fournette, historically, LSU always uses multiple backs.
Guice and Williams come to mind when Fournette was here.
Go back to Faulk, Collins, and Mealey even.
I don't see RB as a weakness with 8 guys who can contribute. The issue last year was no depth. Problem solved.
DB however, that's THE weak spot on this team.
Guice and Williams come to mind when Fournette was here.
Go back to Faulk, Collins, and Mealey even.
I don't see RB as a weakness with 8 guys who can contribute. The issue last year was no depth. Problem solved.
DB however, that's THE weak spot on this team.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:35 pm to wadewilson
quote:
It's QB until Daniels proves he can move the ball vertically with consistency, and I think he'll be just fine at that.
Daniels was inconsistent last year. I dont think thats debatable. But it was his first year in the SEC and his first year in a new offense. The thing with Daniels is that when he was good, he was at times electric. He’s bigger, stronger and has a year behind him.
What’s interesting is that Daniels is that he is much more highly thought of by other team fans than he is with many LSU fans. He is the Athlon first team all SEC preseason qb.
It’s hard for me to pick QB as the relative weakness on this team when we have who many consider to be the best qb in the SEC.
I’m personally very high on Daniels this year, not that that means anything. He is an elite runner outside of the pocket. He’s got a good o-line and NFL potential receivers. Give him a running game and this could be a very good offense.
Kelly has really rebuilt this offense in a short time.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:38 pm to paper tiger
I mean, your original question did specify "relative weakness".
Posted on 8/15/23 at 6:48 pm to wadewilson
Until I see otherwise, I will say running between the tackles and deep passing game.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:02 pm to paper tiger
The only relative weakness I see is O-line up the middle. So goes the running game. I hope it isn’t but we have not had a decent Center since Posic.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:03 pm to Menatiger
Turner put in work in the weight room.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:03 pm to wadewilson
quote:Not sure why you got so many downvotes, but this is the answer. The O line is stout, receivers are good, TEs look good, RB should be solid, aided by the OL. QB is the question mark. If Daniels can throw the ball downfield consistently, it will be a fun year.
It's QB until Daniels proves he can move the ball vertically with consistency, and I think he'll be just fine at that.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:08 pm to paper tiger
It’s RB.
But only b/c you ask for “relative weakness”.
QB is a strength by any measure not burden by Burrow expectations or other biases .
And RB is not weak. It is just not creating expectations of elite performances.
But only b/c you ask for “relative weakness”.
QB is a strength by any measure not burden by Burrow expectations or other biases .
And RB is not weak. It is just not creating expectations of elite performances.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:11 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:Why can’t people see the issue here? Until evidence to the contrary, I am uncomfortable with this aspect of the offense.
Running back is the only answer.
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:17 pm to paper tiger
Based on last year's performance, I would say the relative weakness on offense is the interior of the OL. The guards were particularly susceptible to crossing stunts. For example: Dellinger and X. Hill looked particularly bad in picking up stunts in the Tennessee game (although Hill did react correctly once and picked up the stunt, but missed others; while Dellinger whiffed badly and those whiffs resulted in sacks). Frazier and Turner also had issues throughout last season, Frazier with getting beat by moves to his inside and Turner with recognition and reaction to where his responsibilities lay once the play action started when he was not manned up on a play.
Get these issues shored up and this could be a very good OL.
Get these issues shored up and this could be a very good OL.
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