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re: Can we admit that the only reason people thought Sean Payton was a good coach

Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by theballguy
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Oct 2011
2035 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:53 pm to
Broncos fan. I'm not happy about it honestly. Maybe he was the best we could possibly do? who knows.
Posted by Flynn2Byrd
Mile High City
Member since Feb 2020
584 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 1:35 am to
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The 104.3 people are now saying Sean never liked JJ and Nix was always the choice.


I remember them saying like three weeks ago they weren’t gonna get JJ and saying they shouldn’t force it Iif it doesn’t fit with Nix. While I inherently want the broncos to be competitive, I have no love lost for Sean Payton when they do/have done bad.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 1:37 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27493 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:05 am to
I would take Sam Hartman over JJ without thinking or Spencer Rattler. Nix was a good choice for him.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68607 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:23 am to
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When was he in a position that he needed to draft a QB?



He drafted two QBs. One I guess was just a throw away pick but another was the 75th pick on a guy that never played when you could have gotten another weapon for your hof qb.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422434 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:50 am to
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You think JJ is a better prospect than Nix?

Uh yeah?

Who doesn't?
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12405 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:05 am to
Honestly, no one on this board or anywhere else knows for certain if a QB is going to be a star or not. It's all a crap shoot. Anyone speaking with certainty is full of shite.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2054 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:11 am to
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Honestly, no one on this board or anywhere else knows for certain if a QB is going to be a star or not. It's all a crap shoot. Anyone speaking with certainty is full of shite.
Everyone pretty much all knew Andrew Luck was going to be a star. He was the perfect prospect.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66493 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:05 am to
the offense was still functional with Teddy and Winston towards the end, but obviously Brees really took his offense into gear.

that being said, very few teams are great with bad or even mediocre QBs.

Thats why I have a ton of respect for a guy like Shannahan. He’s had some shite QBs and always delivered a serviceable offense.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51581 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:09 am to
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Was because of Drew Brees


Stupid. Was Brees known as a HOF player when he signed with the saints?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75195 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:09 am to
No one ever talks about how he went 7-9 three consecutive seasons.

A great coach doesn’t do that.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1694 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:10 am to
Andy Reid has had Mahomes, Kelce, and Tyreek Hill. Are you kidding me...
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11828 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:14 am to
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Are you serious? He selected Marcus Davenport in 2017 and that was one of the most vastly underrated picks in the history of the Saints organization.


Huh
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29440 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:38 am to
Sarcasm buddy
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11828 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:39 am to
I was on the fence with that one. The underrated part threw me off lol
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:44 am to
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Everyone pretty much all knew Andrew Luck was going to be a star. He was the perfect prospect.


There’s one of those truly “generational” prospects about once every 10-15 years. Luck, Peyton Manning Elway maybe Aikman. The rest it depends on coaching, the organization and how the player himself develops, how hard he works, studies and learns.

You put a talent like Mahomes with a great coach and organization you get dynasties. Stafford in Detroit you can get some nice stats and occasional playoffs but no high level wins.

The fans posters however don’t know shite. There were meltdowns on the Saints board over the prospect of taking Mahomes. A year ago most of this board was certain CJ Stroud would suck because other QB from Ohio St busted. The board knows jack shite

This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 11:17 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16375 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:33 am to
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Didn't he develop Tony Romo?

He gets the credit for it because he was the assistant HC & QB coach in Dallas from 2003-2004; then the assistant HC in 2005 before going to the Saints in 2006. Romo came to Dallas an UDFA in 2004 but did not play until 2006.

Had to look it up, but David Lee was the QB coach in Dallas for 2005 & 2006
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