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re: Jalen Hurts 1st half vs 2nd half stats so far this season are worth taking a look at
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:39 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:39 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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There are a lot of shitty QBs in the NFL but Hurts isn't one of them right now. Not sure what you're getting at.
Yea I’m just trying to figure out why OP isn’t a head coach in the nfl right now because he’s sure got this shite figured out.
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:42 am to Roger Klarvin
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They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball.
Calm down Vince Lombardi. People haven’t stopped Lamar and he’s been running the exact offense for 4 years. You’re vastly overestimating how good NFL DCs are.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:23 am to Woopigsooie20
quote:sometimes there isn't much the dc can do. Lamar rolls out with andrews 8 yards downfield and one defender in between. He's gotta decide to come up and hit the qb or drop back on andrews. He will lose in either situation. Sometimes the OL does a good job and your guys can't get off blocks. Sometimes you do everything right and get some bullshite pi call 30 yards away from the ball. DCs in the NFL have an uphill battle
You’re vastly overestimating how good NFL DCs are.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:36 am to UncleFestersLegs
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sometimes there isn't much the dc can do. Lamar rolls out with andrews 8 yards downfield and one defender in between. He's gotta decide to come up and hit the qb or drop back on andrews. He will lose in either situation. Sometimes the OL does a good job and your guys can't get off blocks. Sometimes you do everything right and get some bullshite pi call 30 yards away from the ball. DCs in the NFL have an uphill battle
The college game is taking over the NFL. The zone read offenses and RPOs are becoming the norm. It's a great time to be a dual-threat QB.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:39 am to bamameister
quote:unless you're 5'6 and can't see over the OL but even kyler makes some nice plays occasionally. His problem is mostly between the ears. He has a live arm and is fast but makes too many bad decisions. I guess that's coaching but apparently he isn't required to participate in that part of the game preparation
It's a great time to be a dual-threat QB.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 5:40 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:52 am to UncleFestersLegs
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unless you're 5'6 and can't see over the OL but even kyler makes some nice plays occasionally. His problem is mostly between the ears. He has a live arm and is fast but makes too many bad decisions. I guess that's coaching but apparently he isn't required to participate in that part of the game preparation
With the money they just invested in Murray it feels like the next big move for Arizona is getting rid of a Texas Tech coach who was less than average in the college game and seems to have some type of bromance with management. Truly, the Jason Garrett of the Redbirds.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:56 am to bamameister
It always seemed an odd hire and seems to be getting worse instead of better
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:28 am to Roger Klarvin
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They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability. Almost everything they do is designed to generate offense without hurts having to actually read coverages and go through multiple passing reads.
Yeah I said he was serviceable, not great. Everyone knows Hurts is flawed. He's OK and can win games but he's super cheap right now.
If they pay him $30M/year? Yeah bad move. But they're not doing that now and it doesn't seem they intend to.
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Every year one or two teams with enough talent to spam them get away with it for a while but it never leads to meaningful success.
Yeah cool. What would be their alternative plan this offseason? Get Carson Wentz back? Or Baker? Or Jameis?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Hurts has improved incrementally each year. Will he get to the point where he’s actually worth one of these large QB deals? I don’t think so, but I also didn’t think he’d be a serviceable NFL starter. I agree the Eagles don’t seem like they’ll commit to something like that unless they’re completely sure and it’s obvious to everyone
In the meantime Hurts is in that serviceable tier of starter on a cheap deal and with more upside than others because of the athleticism and running ability. Pretty good outcome for a second round pick
In the meantime Hurts is in that serviceable tier of starter on a cheap deal and with more upside than others because of the athleticism and running ability. Pretty good outcome for a second round pick
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 6:51 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:48 am to Roger Klarvin
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They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability. Almost everything they do is designed to generate offense without hurts having to actually read coverages and go through multiple passing reads.
Correct, Hurts is a one read and run guy, always has been. And he's a very good runner, but he's improved his throwing accuracy.
I still don't think it's a model for championship success but it sure gives defensive coordinators sleepless nights worrying about him taking off all the time and gashing your defense.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:57 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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In the meantime Hurts is in that serviceable tier of starter on a cheap deal and with more upside than others because of the athleticism and running ability. Pretty good outcome for a second round pick
Exactly.
They also have a lot of draft capital.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:06 am to Tiger Ugly
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but it sure gives defensive coordinators sleepless nights worrying about him taking off all the time and gashing your defense.
340 yards passing, 3 TDs, and QBR 123.5.
Why do I get the feeling that DCs are worried about more than Jalen's feet?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:39 am to Roger Klarvin
I think we are seeing WR might just be damn near as important as QB now in the nfl
Brady and Rogers struggle to score now with their crap units
Tua and hurts look very good with their elite receivers
Burrow gets chase and has an almost mvp seasons
Titans get rid of brown and can’t do anything offensively anymore
Brady and Rogers struggle to score now with their crap units
Tua and hurts look very good with their elite receivers
Burrow gets chase and has an almost mvp seasons
Titans get rid of brown and can’t do anything offensively anymore
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:45 am to bamameister
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340 yards passing, 3 TDs, and QBR 123.5. Why do I get the feeling that DCs are worried about more than Jalen's feet?
They have to deploy guys to guard against the run that they don't have to against most other QB's. His feet open passing lanes.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:10 am to Roger Klarvin
Your premise is that the Eagles' plan is simple to defend, but yet it takes top football minds 30 minutes of football and getting stomped to be able to figure out how to defend it. Sure thing, bud.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:46 am to Roger Klarvin
Then why wait? They game plan all week for it so why does there have to be an adjustment at the half?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jameis Winston with those receivers might be really legit. Not that they’d win a title with that either though.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
They were up big in week 2 and 3 so not such a great representation of the stats
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
Can you get anymore fricking dumb? Look at how the games have played out.
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