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re: JMU Postseason Waiver denied - Cancel the NCAA already UPDATE Virgina AG Threatens Suit
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:58 am to nicholastiger
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:58 am to nicholastiger
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It’s one thing if you want them not to be eligible for the conf champ game (I get that) but it’s absolutely ludicrous they can’t go to one of these meaningless bowl games that are all but dying out with advent of new playoffs
If JMU was 5-5 trying to get "bowl eligible", I don't think you'd see them putting up this much effort. It isn't some "meaningless bowl game" they're chasing.
If Tulane drops a second game, and JMU wins out (and wins the Sunbelt Champ game), they'd be in line to be the top ranked G5 Conference Champ and a NY6 Bowl. That is HUGE for a G5 program. Look at the attention it brought Tulane last year.
That's what they're chasing. Those of you here suggesting "well they should just schedule Hawaii at the end of the season" are either ignorant to or don't want to see what it is they are potentially losing out on.
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:20 am to ragincajun03
Gameday at JMU is going to be awesome. I will admit, i had no idea that JMU plays in a stadium of this size and gets tremendous fan support. The NCAA is literally going against everything the "collegiate experience" is supposed to be for the students. I hope Gameday being in town brings tremendous pressure on the NCAA to reverse course. Yes rules are rules, but sometimes, rules are meant to be broken. Do the right thing NCAA!!!! Let them play!!
The Sunbelt Conference has some sleeper stadiums that have incredible settings.
The Sunbelt Conference has some sleeper stadiums that have incredible settings.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 8:21 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:20 am to rolltide32
I don't agree with the rule, and don't think it makes sense, but they moved up knowing what the rule was. I don't feel bad for them as much as I think the rule is just dumb. Hopefully the universities will move to change the rule in the offseason.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:53 am to Buckeye Backer
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The Sunbelt Conference has some sleeper stadiums that have incredible settings.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:54 am to Bham Bammer
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I don't agree with the rule, and don't think it makes sense, but they moved up knowing what the rule was. I don't feel bad for them as much as I think the rule is just dumb. Hopefully the universities will move to change the rule in the offseason.
And that is fine...but i think the circumstance is what should be taken into consideration. JMU is 10-0 and this has MAJOR ramifications throughout college football. This is a monumental opportunity for JMU and the NCAA should understand just how important it is to have JMU be a part of the post season. Not every situation is the same...and therefor should be evaluated differently. How does this decision by the NCAA help the sport, athletes, university or the SBC???? So dumb...appeal it again!!
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:56 am to ragincajun03
quote:Those comments made me chuckle.
Those of you here suggesting "well they should just schedule Hawaii at the end of the season" are either ignorant to or don't want to see what it is they are potentially losing out on.
"Oh i know we had a chance at the cotton bowl against Oklahoma but I tell you what guys we'll play (checks notes) 4-7 Hawaii to make up for it." Like that's supposed to help anything.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:33 am to Buckeye Backer
If they aren't bowl eligible, they shouldn't be ranked in the polls, either. Otherwise, you get the ridiculous situation of a top-25 team that cannot go to a bowl game
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:46 am to saintsfan22
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Tulane swinging their dicks with the NCAA to keep the auto bid as the top G5 team.
We don't have that kind of power
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:50 am to FightinTigersDammit
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If they aren't bowl eligible, they shouldn't be ranked in the polls, either. Otherwise, you get the ridiculous situation of a top-25 team that cannot go to a bowl game
The NCAA doesn't have anything to do with the polls.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:59 am to Buckeye Backer
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JMU is 10-0 and this has MAJOR ramifications throughout college football.
What ramifications "throughout" college football? Seems to affect them and maybe one other team.
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This is a monumental opportunity for JMU and the NCAA should understand just how important it is to have JMU be a part of the post season.
Why is it important?
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Not every situation is the same...and therefor should be evaluated differently.
This causes chaos, especially if you're just ignoring a rule in place for one team.
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How does this decision by the NCAA help the sport, athletes, university or the SBC????
Legitimate questions, and grounds for eliminating the rule. But until then, it's in place and it's there at the recommendation of the colleges and universities.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:02 am to rolltide32
The only thing dumber than this rule would be a waiver.
Change the rule but stop granting waivers.
Change the rule but stop granting waivers.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:09 am to Buckeye Backer
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How does this decision by the NCAA help the sport, athletes, university or the SBC????
How long has it been since the NCAA actually made decisions based on the good of a member institution or players. They don’t. Not surprising that they’ve dug in their heels on this.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:11 am to rolltide32
Aren't the bowls primarily beholden to their sponsors, broadcast partners, and the conferences? I'm just curious what the NCAA can really do if a bowl extends an invitation to JMU anyway, and they accept.
Obviously the NCAA can flex their petty muscles and punish JMU further. But theoretically, if someone like the Peach Bowl says, we have an at-large spot, this team is undefeated, they'll bring fans to the game, and they'll bring eyeballs to TVs because people hate the NCAA's bullshite, who's to stop them? They answer to the CFP organizers, not the NCAA.
This obviously won't happen, but it would be fun to see the ramifications.
Obviously the NCAA can flex their petty muscles and punish JMU further. But theoretically, if someone like the Peach Bowl says, we have an at-large spot, this team is undefeated, they'll bring fans to the game, and they'll bring eyeballs to TVs because people hate the NCAA's bullshite, who's to stop them? They answer to the CFP organizers, not the NCAA.
This obviously won't happen, but it would be fun to see the ramifications.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:23 am to nvasil1
While the NCAA doesn't own the bowl games, there is a process whereby the NCAA "certifies" bowl games and that certification is based on the bowls/sponsors following certain NCAA rules regarding team eligibility. I'd imagine this scenario probably fits under that.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:38 am to Bham Bammer
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What ramifications "throughout" college football? Seems to affect them and maybe one other team.
James Madison is 10-0...if you don't understand the ramifications, then i cant help you. It could change the path of James Madison AND the SBC. College football should be uniting behind them if they win out...period!
James Madison's remaining schedule is one that would elevate them even more if they win out. This is NOT going away...not after Gameday sheds an incredible amount of light on it this Saturday.
JMU Remaining Schedule:
Appalachian St (6-4) ESPN Gameday
@Coastal Carolina (7-3)
SBC Championship Game vs Troy (10-2)
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This causes chaos, especially if you're just ignoring a rule in place for one team
As if the NCAA doesn't do that already...they literally just changed a rule for the kid at UNC. The NCAA already creates its own chaos...
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:40 am to Pedro
LAMO stadium looks like a baby tackle box. (TAMU)
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:42 am to Buckeye Backer
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JMU is 10-0 and this has MAJOR ramifications throughout college football.
Yeah, the are major ramifications for who is gonna play in the Cure Bowl... a month from today.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:43 am to LSUFanHouston
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The only thing dumber than this rule would be a waiver.
Change the rule but stop granting waivers.
Yeah, I wonder if they would be sued by an undefeated Tulane if they did grant the waiver and JMU took the NY6 spot.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:44 am to Buckeye Backer
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James Madison's remaining schedule is one that would elevate them even more if they win out. This is NOT going away...not after Gameday sheds an incredible amount of light on it this Saturday.
Yes it will. Nobody will give a shite about James Madison a month from now.
Not to mention there isn’t unanimous support on their side. The rule is dumb but they knew the rule when they moved up.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:46 pm to Buckeye Backer
Again, you can build it up all you want but it impacts a couple of teams. Not all of college football and certainly not in any significant way.
Individual player waivers do happen. Show me anywhere that a team has gotten a waiver from this rule.
Individual player waivers do happen. Show me anywhere that a team has gotten a waiver from this rule.
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