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re: Looking like Kentucky Derby winner Mystik Dan won't run in the Preakness

Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:10 pm to
I have as much secretariat fatigue as I do Taylor swift fatigue

Though I did like Jason Kelce’s secretariat post

Really got everyone’s panties in a twist.

Sunday silence is my all time favorite horse.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
2915 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:41 pm to
Um, you forget the Travers, and Classic.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
2915 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:43 pm to
Hold down the button on Muth. Baffert ships to Maryland, it means he is cranked and loaded. (With something)
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106735 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:00 am to
If he wins, I hope to god it is the other baffert. Then Zedan can shove it up his arse.

Can you imagine if either baffert snaps a leg in the Preakness?
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106735 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:06 am to
I said most of them won’t run 1 1/4 again. Not all. There will be a few. But even in the travers lately it seems fewer derby runners run back and later developing 3 yr olds target it. And with everything retiring early there is a good chance maybe 5 or 6 do it again from this derby field.

And I know you just love that piece of shite Dutrow, but abarrio had some help to make the distance he never could before amazing trainer switch for owners who claim to be all about the horse but only employ shady arse trainers. All their aftercare support has to be from guilty conscience. And you can believe whatever you want about him “doing his time” but nothing will EVER convince me he wasn’t using a paper trainer the entire time…

As always, a bunch of the derby field cuts back and even surface switches.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:19 pm to
Now now. I don't wish that upon any horse.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:33 pm to
All trainers who get suspended have paper trainers. Ya think Brad Cox should be questioned with the way Knicks Go ran ? Was an average horse with Colebrook, then all of a sudden, he takes off. Cmon. No way, no how. I didn't question White Abarrio, because look where he was before. Joseph couldn't train Lassie to bark. Plus , he can't win outside of Florida, unless you want to count his win yesterday at CD. Different jurisdictions, different, medication "rules". Dutrow probably dried him out, and got him fit. Can't question that.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Seattle Slew was better than all of them.


You think he's the goat? He was a bad arse, but come on.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106735 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:56 pm to
So stop saying he did his time. Because he didn’t. He learned nothing.

Just look at fricking Rudy’s record to see

He was definitely using him and his ex Michelle

Also, horses going to the assistant for 60-90 days is not the same as the piece of shite calling all the shots on a 10 year ban. I wish it had been a lifetime.

Also… I question the frick out of knicks go and cheered against him every time accordingly.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106735 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:57 pm to
I don’t wish it on any horse. But his are all ticking time bombs.

If baffert has to win, I’d love Frankie to be the one to pull it off
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
2915 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:28 pm to
Seems to me there is some sort of personal hatred towards Dutrow. 10 years isn't enough? I suppose you're good with Amoss, Ness, and Clement getting constant slaps on the wrist, when every horse player that can see knows they are doing some shady stuff. RD, got busted, was a repeat offender, and got the death penalty. The beef I have, is the game needs one person, like a commissioner to make all the disciplinary decisions. The jockey club needs to go, as does HISA. Both are ruining the sport. Plus, get rid of the crooked vets, who are in the pockets of crooked trainers.
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening in the near future.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106735 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:54 pm to
10 years was not enough. I got good baffert hate practice on my original hate of Dutrow.

You’re never goi g to change my mind and I’ll never change yours. But I’m never going to stop calling a piece of shite a piece of shite.

The 08 Belmont was one of my happiest moments



I will say ONE nice thing about Hisa. ONE. I’m with them on the break after injections, especially fetlocks. Hitting the joints before every race is not good and a big reason TBs have issues later in life and 2nd careers. Once you start going into a joint you are stuck doing it forever, and once or twice a year is plenty. It degenerates the joint like crazy.

I’ll eventually have to start injecting my horse’s hocks, but I’m trying to prolong that event as long as possible. I’d like him to last as long as he can.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5684 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:13 am to
quote:

You think he's the goat? He was a bad arse, but come on.



He was the only horse to win the Triple Crown undefeated when he won it in over 100 years until Justify in 2018.

He was a two year old champion, a three year old champion , and a four year old champion.

He also best another Triple crown winner twice.

He has the most offspring of any Triple Crown winner in history.( Not the most offspring but the most of the Triple Crown winners).
By off spring I mean successful.


No other Triple Crown winner can say any of those things I just mentioned.

That is why he is the GOAT
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106735 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:28 am to
Justify’s gets 2 asterisks for me. Shouldn’t have been in the derby and massively fixed belmont.

I’ll give him his Preakness win.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5684 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:19 am to
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Justify’s gets 2 asterisks for me. Shouldn’t have been in the derby and massively fixed belmont.

I’ll give him his Preakness win.


Agreed he shouldn't have been in Derby.
He was dirty
Posted by Nelson Biederman IV
New York, NY
Member since Apr 2014
531 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Makes me sad that I will never see a horse like Secretariat run in my lifetime


Flightline had the potential. It’s just hard to compare because of their drastically different development and racing history. The breed gets better every season. You never know.
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