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Most overrated and underrated UFC fighter of all time?

Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:25 pm
Overrated:

Donald Cowboy Cerrone

Underrated:

Cheick Kongo
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:30 pm to
Overrated: Brock Lesnar
Posted by cenlaconvertedsouth
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:31 pm to
Overrated - Sage Northcutt

Underrated - Gegard Mousasi
Posted by Bamadog75
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Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:35 pm to
Overrated is Jorge masvidal

Underrated is stipe miocic
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75221 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:36 pm to
I thought Lyoto Machida was also very underrated.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Underrated:

Cheick Kongo


Now you have my attention
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:39 pm to
Overrated Tito Ortiz
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
Most overrated and underrated is BJ Penn.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Most overrated and underrated is BJ Penn.


How so? I always thought if he had better cardio endurance that he would have been one of the greatest fighters of all time.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:49 pm to
I think Chuck Liddell is overrated... fun to watch him swing.. but overrated IMO.

Chael Sonnen underrated (to an extent)
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:53 pm to
Overrated: Nate Diaz


Underrated: Frank Shamrock


Properly rated: Chuck Lidell
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Overrated: Nate Diaz


Underrated: Frank Shamrock


Just lost all credibility here...
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Just lost all credibility here...


How so? Nate Diaz has never been a serious title contender with a 21-13 record. He’s good at taking a beating. For the amount of love he gets(and he gets plenty)vs what he accomplished, he is overrated.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:15 pm to
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I always thought if he had better cardio endurance that he would have been one of the greatest fighters of all time


He could have. His story is kinda unique. His highs were insanely high and his lows were lower than you could imagine for a guy so good.

If the question is "overrated and underrated" then im not sure who fits better.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
7248 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:15 pm to
Overrated: Lyoto Machida. His karate style was cool at the time but he always lost the big fights and would immediately get another big fight or title shot

Underrated: Carlos Condit. Dude was a killer in his prime and beat Nick Diaz when Diaz was supposed to be the man to come in and beat GSP. He also beat Lawler for the belt IMO but judges didn’t see it that way

For a long time I said BJ penn is the most overrated fighter of all time. I was challenged in another fight thread to really look at his body of work and I have since changed my stance

Whoever says the iceman can GTFO. Most don’t realize he was like 37 when he knocked out Tito for the ufc belt so he was past his prime and still dropping elite fighters. Go back and look at his pride and early ufc days, guy was a beast. He’s who got me into ufc
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11108 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

he knocked out Tito for the ufc belt so he was past his prime and still dropping elite fighters


I think that says more about Tito than it does the ice man...
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:36 pm to
Overrated: Ronda Rousey

Underrated: Charles Oliveira. I know he's lost two of his last three but he was on an incredible streak there for a while in a stacked division (beat Ferguson, Chandler, Poirier, and Gaethje). Most finishes in UFC history and the only person to fight in 4 title fights and never be the favorite. Never was the fan favorite either. Didn't get the respect from Vegas or the fans, kind of the definition of underrated.
Posted by DalenSA
Member since Jan 2023
1648 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:41 pm to
Overrated: Cormier. He was the biggest beneficiary to the Jon Jones scandals. If not for that, he would have never had the amount of title fights that he did.
Posted by migui8618
Member since Nov 2023
138 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:47 pm to
Overrated:

Michael "British Cyclops" Bisping

Underrated:

Lyoto Machida
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43577 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

How so? Nate Diaz has never been a serious title contender with a 21-13 record. He’s good at taking a beating. For the amount of love he gets(and he gets plenty)vs what he accomplished, he is overrated.


I agree and I am a Nate diaz fan. Entertaining guy but not anywhere near being great.

Underrated is a hard one


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