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re: STM baseball coach resigns
Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:44 pm to lsu777
Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:44 pm to lsu777
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Just like the dumbass that said travel coaches aren’t making kids run poles to get them in shape Well no shite because baseball is an explosive sport, so you don’t need to be running poles making them slower It’s takes like that…shows posters here have zero clue on development
People take their situations, which usually involve them doing zero research on their travel team/club/organization, have shitty experiences (their fault) and then project that experience to everyone else’s situation.
Are there stereotypical travel ball coaches, parents, organizations, etc? Yes of course… but to act like every single team or coach is a net negative is absolutely incorrect.
You can’t cheer for LSU baseball and its players and turn around and shite all over travel ball. That would make you a hypocrite….. but people don’t wanna talk about that
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:03 pm to Pedro
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There's no subjectivity.
“don’t like it? play better”.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:44 pm to TheRouxGuru
Exactly it
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:53 pm to CypressTrout10
Who is doing this? What org cost 5k for AA ball? Very few orgs that cost that much period very very few. Traction canes only one I know of and they not close to 5k either
And the reason people do lower level is because they are trying to give their kid a chance at HS ball. A decent aa team would destroy 99% of the all star rec teams in this state.
This is first year in last 8 I haven’t coached LL, trust me when I tell you LL is horrible with the worst parents once you are past coach pitch. Nothing but a baby sitting service
And the reason people do lower level is because they are trying to give their kid a chance at HS ball. A decent aa team would destroy 99% of the all star rec teams in this state.
This is first year in last 8 I haven’t coached LL, trust me when I tell you LL is horrible with the worst parents once you are past coach pitch. Nothing but a baby sitting service
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:19 am to lsu777
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Most bad mouthing travel ball have no clue wtf they are talking about and get a lot more development in travel than hs
Almost all HS travel teams are coached by high school coaches. And the entire point of travel ball at that point is to get seen. It isn't about development. They may have 3 practices from May - August.
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It’s takes like that…shows posters here have zero clue on development
I don't think you understand development at all. You understand 11 year old baseball. That is all you have experienced.
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Don’t have that shite with travel
Because if you don't like how it is going, you start your own team and make your kid the SS.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:48 am to TheRouxGuru
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Are there stereotypical travel ball coaches, parents, organizations, etc? Yes of course… but to act like every single team or coach is a net negative is absolutely incorrect.
Nobody said every team or coach is a negative. The problem most people in this thread have with travel ball is the model. Due to the model you have kids playing in a system that is nothing like HS and college baseball. Travel ball people claim it's about getting kids to college but the model isn't anything like college. There are wonderful travel ball organizations that do things the right way, but the model itself sucks and creates problems for kids when they get to HS.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:12 am to AcadiaParishTiger
Not to hijack this thread about STM baseball but I saw STM is finally playing Division 1 for all sports including football.
They have always been a great athletic program but the split plus playing in division 2 allowed them to accumulate a bunch of titles in basketball and football.
Interested in seeing how they do playing the big boys with one of the smaller division 1 enrollments.
They have always been a great athletic program but the split plus playing in division 2 allowed them to accumulate a bunch of titles in basketball and football.
Interested in seeing how they do playing the big boys with one of the smaller division 1 enrollments.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:22 am to AcadiaParishTiger
I heard he misgendered Braxton.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:19 am to AcadiaParishTiger
Cass is also a Holy Cross grad, most of those guys, especially from his generation, are entitled pussies.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:47 am to Antonio Moss
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The STM Athletic Department
STM is irrelevant outside of Louisiana. Max Preps is just ranking this based on State championships probably. And lets be honest. STM is winning these titles in a split system, which is far easier than it was prior to the split, when they weren't winning any.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:48 am to CypressTrout10
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But instead of paying $75 to the local league you pay $5000 to play.
and I think this is for the illusion of exclusivity.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:00 am to Kracka
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and I think this is for the illusion of exclusivity.
Travel ball ages 9-13 should be for the top 10%-15% of kids in an age group. The issue is rec ball only has scraps left because 80% of kids are now playing travel ball. If some of these areas would work to develop rec ball and have 90% of kids 5-13 playing rec ball in April and May then it would lift everything up. Those kids could form teams and play tournaments June and July. But rec ball is just so bad. There are a lot of baseball guys (former players and coaches) that now have kids in that age group and hate the system but have to participate because there is no other option.
I would like to think that parents would prefer playing in their home city until schools out for $100 then spend money to travel 4-6 weekends after. The pendulum will swing back at some point.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:21 am to Pedro
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Clock/tape measure dont lie.
Bingo.
In T&F, much tougher for Daddy to get the coach to promise his kid to be in X amount of varsity meets or be on a certain relay team in exchange to X amount of athletic donations.
Either your kid is fast though, or can jump or throw far enough, or he/she can’t.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:24 am to ChatGPT of LA
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Kim B
Top notch, salt of the earth guy. We need more Coach Kims in this world.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:27 am to chalmetteowl
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Travel baseball will never matter like high school ball does though
i know several high school kids that quit their hs team to focus on showcases. that's where the scouts are.
high school ball will always matter more to the average kid that won't play past 12th grade, but kids with legitimate chances of playing at the next level (and their parents) want to play where theyll be seen by the most talent evaluators.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:29 am to Tyga Woods
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i know several high school kids that quit their hs team to focus on showcases. that's where the scouts are.
Same with focusing on club volleyball vs HS volleyball.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:32 am to Tyga Woods
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high school ball will always matter more to the average kid that won't play past 12th grade, but kids with legitimate chances of playing at the next level (and their parents) want to play where theyll be seen by the most talent evaluators.
I agree. But the issue is that parents are delusional. They can't see that high school ball is the end of the line. If 5% of high school baseball players play at the next level, 60% of players and parents think their son is good enough to get to the next level. So HS teams are filled with kids who care about the next level that don't have a realist chance at it. So when more than half of your team cares very little about winning, it causes a weird dynamic.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:39 am to HottyToddy7
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I would like to think that parents would prefer playing in their home city until schools out for $100 then spend money to travel 4-6 weekends after.
I believe the majority of those parents who pay for travel don't to deal with the culture that is associated with Rec leagues. That is a small portion of the main reason behind the exodus to Travel. The larger portion think their kid is going to lock down a scholarship. What I don't get is, they do this from a very young age, then all the way through high school. Why wouldn't they just save that money and use it for college tuition savings account? My other thought is that the parents love the travel and attention that comes with being on these travel teams. Then they love to bitch about how much it cost.
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The pendulum will swing back at some point.
Ain't going to be any time soon, cities are building sports complexes to host these tournaments year round. They are upgrading existing complexes to host more games simultaneously. That's big money, big big money. They aren't turning their backs on that shite any time soon. Because rec leagues ain't going to foot that bill for seasonal sports.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:42 am to ragincajun03
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Top notch, salt of the earth guy. We need more Coach Kims in this world.
I agree. He has been probably the best AD in Louisiana in his years with sTm. And his brothers have been probably the best basketball coaches in the state during theirs. Great family.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:42 am to HottyToddy7
Another issue is assistant coaches in HS who are part of travel organizations such as the Knights. If you don't play for that org in summer you are black balled regardless of talent. Also HS coaches who are helping hitting coaches on side are determining playing time based off if kid is going lessons with them vs someone else. Seen it first hand and it is an absolute joke.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 11:44 am
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