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re: Shogun - Official Series Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:12 pm to Boodis Man
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:12 pm to Boodis Man
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i dont like shows playing with my emotions like this. im mad as hell right now
Honestly this scene has been the Red Wedding of Shogun for book readers.
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:35 pm to 3nOut
They kilt my gurl and now they all have to die.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:45 pm to Boodis Man
i might actually watch next year's emmys for the first time ever. i demand that the creators of this show get their just due and rewarded for an excellent job
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:28 pm to 3nOut
At least the 80's series had the good taste to make Fuji hotter than Mariko.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:01 am to BluegrassBelle
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They kilt my gurl and now they all have to die.
Blackthorne and Buntaro about to go scorched earth for their Bae.
Will say I wanted to see if Blackthorne would have chopped her head off.
This show is so awesome
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:38 am to LUS Tiger in FL
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Blackthorne and Buntaro about to go scorched earth for their Bae
As will Toranaga, but then this appears to all be part of the plan
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:30 pm to udtiger
Why did she all of the sudden have feelings for Anjin again?
Was it because he was going to "allow" her to be free (by being her second)? Or was it because she realized that supuku isn't as black and white as she'd thought?
Was it because he was going to "allow" her to be free (by being her second)? Or was it because she realized that supuku isn't as black and white as she'd thought?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:15 pm to SouthMSReb
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Why did she all of the sudden have feelings for Anjin again?
I dont think her feelings ever stopped.
She had to conceal it because of Buntaro coming back. JMO
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:19 pm to udtiger
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As will Toranaga, but then this appears to all be part of the plan
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:12 pm to udtiger
And her death that she had been seeking for many years finally met her swiftly and with purpose.
Can’t wait for Blackthorne and Toranaga to wreck these fools.
Can’t wait for Blackthorne and Toranaga to wreck these fools.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:50 pm to LUS Tiger in FL
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Blackthorne and Buntaro about to go scorched earth for their Bae. Will say I wanted to see if Blackthorne would have chopped her head off. This show is so awesome
I think he legitimately would’ve been her second. At that point, she would be dead anyone. Being the second is just to not prolong the suffering. He wouldn’t have watched her suffer in that situation.
It’s been interesting to see Blackthorne’s immersion into Japanese culture and him gaining respect for certain parts of their society.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:45 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I think he legitimately would’ve been her second. At that point, she would be dead anyone. Being the second is just to not prolong the suffering. He wouldn’t have watched her suffer in that situation.
She didn’t want to commit suicide but putting a blade through her heart would have been the same, no matter if someone cuts off your head before actual death. Her actual death at least served a purpose.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I think he legitimately would’ve been her second.
He would have, but women samurai weren't allowed to have a second. They also didn't kill themselves the way the movie was portraying. They slit their own throats.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:27 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
So is this the only season of this show? I'm not familiar with the book so didn't know if the next episode would be the end or not.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:39 pm to BluegrassBelle
Where is Fuji? She’s kinda disappeared from the storyline a little
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:24 am to Boodis Man
I thought it was going to happen, but I'm still chapped Mariko is gone. Also, got tricked with Crimson Sky title of episode. This was not a happy ending.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:07 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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He would have, but women samurai weren't allowed to have a second. They also didn't kill themselves the way the movie was portraying. They slit their own throats.
Her having a second is apparently true to the original text (it was someone different who stepped in as her second in the book, I don’t want to spoil that for folks who may want to read later).
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:38 am to BluegrassBelle
I have never read the book, so the last episode was jaw dropping for me. When Mariko was about to kill herself...i was screaming "No way...no fricking way"...and then Ishido comes in and i was like "whewwww"...and then they play with my emotions and turn right around and kill her anyway. First Hiromatsu..and now Mariko...Lord Toranaga and Blackthorne are gonna frick some shite up...and i cannot wait!!
This show better clean up at the Emmy's!!!!
This show better clean up at the Emmy's!!!!
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:42 am to Boodis Man
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Where is Fuji? She’s kinda disappeared from the storyline a little
I think Fuji is about to make a huge comeback...now that Mariko is unfortunately gone. Maybe we get a Fuji redemption side story from her as well?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:05 am to BluegrassBelle
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Her having a second is apparently true to the original text (it was someone different who stepped in as her second in the book, I don’t want to spoil that for folks who may want to read later).
Yeah, they were definitely allowed to have seconds.
It just wasn't as necessary. They did do the dagger to the heart, but they put the dagger against the ground pointing up and fell on it with all of their weight on their heart. So just a more immediately/guaranteed lethal way of doing it rather than slicing your belly which could take a long time to actually die from.
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