re: A worthwhile sharing draft tweet that is very relevant

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Maybe he does in 2030.

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That applies to every position, and includes our opportunities in the 2nd round, also applies to next year's 1-2 picks.

There is no logical reason it has to be done THIS draft. That's the issue with your reasoning.

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OT is a future pick as much as it is a 2024 pick.

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Why does this only apply to 2024? Why can't we wait until 2025 and have the same need/opportunity?

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There will be a draft and free agency in 2025

There will also be a draft and free agency in 2026, 2027, etc.

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Come on man, by all accounts this is the best OT draft in a while. I’m not punting on it because some college freshman might be awesome in 2027.

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a. We may

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b. We don't need an elite LT, especially with our new OL system. It would be nice if one fell to us in the mid-1st, but it's not a requirement.

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If your a. point is true then we won’t have this new OL system past 2024

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There is no logical reason it has to be done THIS draft.

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Because, in my opinion, you can’t field a serious offensive line in 2024 with the current assets.

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Why does this only apply to 2024? Why can't we wait until 2025 and have the same need/opportunity?

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Because the 2025 draft might suck and have 2 first round worthy OTs. Or maybe it’ll be better, point is neither of us know.

Yeah I do not want to trade up. That shite always seems to bite us in the arse. If you come away with a Bowers, Odunze, Turner, Verse, you should be pretty damn happy.

Could be the greatest smoke blown ever

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Yea, so what. Go get the guy that’s a cornerstone of your franchise for the next decade, at a premium position.

Would be nice to not have to, but I’d rather do that than sit back and draft what’s left at 14

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I'm with you. I don't think we should be 100% married to never trading back under any circumstances, but I prefer the aggressive philosophy of identifying a guy they really love and have a long-term vision for, and going and getting him with conviction. Within reason, of course. Like OT for example. It seems obvious that it's Alt, then a gap, then 5-6 guys in that next tier. And I've watched a ton of pre-draft show, and there doesn't seem to be any consensus on the order of the guys in that tier. Everybody likes different guys better than others. I have seen every single one of that group listed as the 2nd best OT in the class.

But I bet the Saints have identified one they really like over the others. I'd rather them move up to 12 or something and take that guy rather than waiting and hoping he falls, but if he doesn't, they're stuck taking a guy they "like," but don't "love." I'd rather them swing to take a guy with conviction than sit back and have to "settle" on a guy they don't love and hope he works out. Penning seems like a mis-eval. And it really sucks. But I still prefer they identify they guy they love and go take him with conviction rather than sitting still and crossing their fingers that another team doesn't love him just as much. Just have to be better at identifying the right guys.

It's like the Mahomes thing. There's been a little pushback on the original thinking now that people don't love Sean here anymore, but for the longest time, everybody was praising Sean for identifying Mahomes and being willing to take him much higher than he was predicted. Sean just got unlucky that the Chiefs swept in. Oh well.

I always thought that was bullshite and, before Mahomes even started winning Super Bowls, I thought that was the worst move in his entire Saints' tenure. If you identify a guy--especially a QB--that you think could be the long-term future at a position and are willing to take him at 11 while you still have a HOF QB with a couple of prime years left--if you love a guy that much--you go and fricking get him. You don't give another team a chance to do what the Chiefs did. Go get your fricking guy.

Now, this draft may not have that dude. They legitimately may like a handful of OTs exactly the same and be perfectly fine with whoever falls to 14. I HOPE that's the case. But if they really like 1 in that non-Alt 2nd tier, I'd rather them be aggressive and go get him than hoping he falls to 14 and risk settling for a guy they're "meh" on.

Annnndddd, James Hurst just retired. Scratch another potential tackle off the roster.

Yea, do whatever you have to do in the draft.

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It seems pretty clear what Jeremiah is saying here. Every team in the entire League knows how desperate the Saints are for OTs, so they are all posturing, especially the teams in front, to force the Saints into a situation where they will do what everyone knows the Saints always do: be aggressive and move up.

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I don’t think this is some huge plot by the league to force the Saints’ hand, bunch

I'll post this here, another LT not getting talked about enough is Amarius Mims. 9 starts, maybe not as game ready as we need but surely can be a hall of famer out this group. Kirby has a very compelling argument, linking article, pasting quote.

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Georgia coach Kirby Smart put that into perspective during the NFL Draft evaluation process, however.

“What does that matter if you’ve blocked Travon Walker, Nolan Smith, Robert Beal your whole career,” Smart said, noting how challenging the UGA practice are with the offensive and defensive starters often going against each other.

“What does eight starts matter? Would you rather have someone who started 27 games and played against nobody, or somebody who played against first-round draft picks every day in practice? I know which one I’m picking.”

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Because he plays RT not LT?