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re: Born on this day 202 years ago…
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:38 pm to GruntbyAssociation
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:38 pm to GruntbyAssociation
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Son of Confederate Veterans
AKA the Losers Club
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:41 pm to GruntbyAssociation
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Kiss my Son of Confederate Veterans arse.
You can kiss my Son of Confederate Veteran's arse too. My great-great-great-great grandfather served in the 31st Alabama and surrendered to Grant at Vicksburg. His older brother (my great-great-great-great uncle) served in the 14th Alabama at Gettysburg and was killed at Spotsylvania Court House on May 12, 1864.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:51 pm to biglego
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It’s sort of like saying Larry Coker or Orgeron are the greatest football coaches bc they won with superior talent.
If Grant had stepped into command Napoleon's Grand Armee after dying unexpectedly in 1806 you might have a point. However, the Army of the Tennessee's was Grant's baby from late-1861 until the end of 1863. He trained and developed that army and led it to an undefeated record from the Battle of Belmont in November 1861 to the Battle of Chattanooga in November 1863.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:58 pm to Cosmo
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Just means they werent as brilliant as Washington
Not even the best general in his own war
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:01 pm to Cosmo
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Winfield Scott in the Mexican War
While he commanded a numerically inferior army, they were better trained, better led, better equipped, and better armed than his Mexican counterpart led by Santa Anna. They were also quite apathetic and broke as soon as the American force began to get the better of them in battle. So as brilliant as Winfield Scott is (easily among the Top 5 best in American history) he would be categorized in the same vein as the 20th century generals and Union commanders based on the impossible standards placed on Grant.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:03 pm to RollTide1987
I thought Robert E Lee was the better general? The war would’ve been over a lot sooner if he would’ve been in command of the union army?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:09 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I thought Robert E Lee was the better general?
Based on what? If we were to do this like a head coach, using wins, losses, and ties, his battlefield record as a commanding general would have been 5 wins, 6 losses, and 9 ties (.475).
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The war would’ve been over a lot sooner if he would’ve been in command of the union army?
That isn't a foregone conclusion. Lee suffered an early defeat in the Western Virginia Campaign of 1861 and was banished to building up coastal defenses in the Carolinas. It took a while for a lot of these top commanders to get used to commanding large armies in the field as most were just junior officers prior to the war's outbreak with no experience in large-scale strategic movements.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:23 pm to RollTide1987
quote:what a history teacher told me in college
Based on what?
What was Grant’s battlefield record?
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:50 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
Yet you always knight for the oppressors.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:35 pm to GreenRockTiger
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What was Grant’s battlefield record?
Battle of Belmont - Draw (0-0-1)
Battle of Fort Henry - Win (1-0-1)
Battle of Fort Donelson - Win (2-0-1)
Battle of Shiloh - Win (3-0-1)
Battle of Iuka - Win (4-0-1)
Second Battle of Corinth - Win (5-0-1)
Battle of Port Gibson - Win (6-0-1)
Battle of Raymond - Win (7-0-1)
Battle of Jackson - Win (8-0-1)
Battle of Champion Hill - Win (9-0-1)
Battle of Big Black River Bridge - Win (10-0-1)
Siege of Vicksburg - Win (11-0-1)
Battle of Chattanooga - Win (12-0-1)
Battle of the Wilderness - Draw (12-0-2)
Battle of Spotsylvania Court House - Draw (12-0-3)
Battle of North Anna River - Draw (12-0-4)
Battle of Cold Harbor - Loss (12-1-4)
Siege of Petersburg - Win (13-1-4)
Battle of Sailor's Creek - Win (14-1-4)
Battle of Appomattox - Win (15-1-4)
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:42 pm to GruntbyAssociation
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Yet you always knight for the oppressors.
You do realize that Grant has been dead for almost 139 years, do you not? I am not siding with anyone. I'm simply looking at what happened in the past and applying what I have learned about it to the subject.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:48 pm to RollTide1987
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The greatest military commander in American history and 18th
2nd place fans in shambles
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:48 pm to cwil1
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Got his arse kicked by a Kentuckian
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:51 pm to RollTide1987
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The greatest military commander in American history
Andrew Jackson and George Patton say hold my whiskey
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:56 pm to Furious
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(counting confederate commanders in this).
Why
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:58 pm to cwil1
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They stole my grandfather's horse in Nashville riding back from surrendering to Sherman in GA. And forced him to walk back home to KY.
He lucky they let him live... being a traitor in all
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:06 pm to RollTide1987
And first USPOTUS to be arrested ……….by (DC) police for speeding — 3 times, and possible intoxication
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:09 pm to Furious
He has Abe to thank…. Most other generals hated him, and couldn’t stand his drunkenness. Abe tuned out all the noise —- otherwise he would’ve never gotten to where he finished up.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:20 pm to RollTide1987
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Lee lost more men at a higher ratio in the war than did Grant.
It's amazing these "historians" will throw out, "butcher", in regards to Grant but refuse to say the same for Lee or Jackson. Problem is, Grant could afford it, Lee could not
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:45 pm to RollTide1987
One of the best American presidents in history.
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