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Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:20 pm to Jimbeaux
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Are you assuming that the batteries were fully charged when the cars got stuck on the rural section of an interstate highway
and would have to make the same assumption on gas cars
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:22 pm to weagle99
This would not have happened in the age of all electric vehicles
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:28 pm to Tigerpaw123
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and would have to make the same assumption on gas cars
During hurricane Katrina evacuation there were people stranded on the highways for many hours. When many started running out of gas fuel trucks were sent out on the highways to supply them with gas. Those driving a EV would have been SOL.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:31 pm to Duke
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stuck in the snow on the interstate for a full day
If only there was some way they could have known that a massive snow storm was coming, so they could have kept their arse off of the roads. You would think that, in 2022, we would have some form of early detection systems for catastrophic weather events. Then, we could have people working with these systems, like as a job. We could call them Weatherologists, or something.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:35 pm to weagle99
When I was stationed in PA I kept a few MRE's, blanket, emergency tools, bottles of water, couple bags of salt, and a 5-gallon fuel can full of stabilized gas in the back of my truck during the winter. 5 gallons was about 1/3 of a tank for that little Ranger, imagine having to keep a 33kWh battery pack instead for a Tesla.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:35 pm to weagle99
You are so against new technology you do not understand that to push back you are using a situation that most people will never be in. That is completely rational thinking if I have ever seen it.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:45 pm to weagle99
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They were stranded for almost 24 hours in freezing temperatures.
I assume the batteries can power heaters that long and then drive away? Or someone could bring them cans of electricity to pour into the cars if they were running low?
Think for a minute about how remarkably inefficient an ICE vehicle is just running the heater. The amount of wasted energy running an ICE engine to heat coolant is huge considering the vast majority of the heat is being lost.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:47 pm to jmarto1
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You are so against new technology you do not understand that to push back you are using a situation that most people will never be in.
I am using a topical situation.
We can also talk about being stranded in hurricane evacuations if you like
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:49 pm to weagle99
Someone’s battery would eventually catch fire and everyone could gather around for warmth.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:52 pm to Obtuse1
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Think for a minute about how remarkably inefficient an ICE vehicle is just running the heater. The amount of wasted energy running an ICE engine to heat coolant is huge considering the vast majority of the heat is being lost.
And EV's have to heat their batteries which is wasted kWh.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:54 pm to jmarto1
[quote]You are so against new technology you do not understand that to push back you are using a situation that most people will never be in. That is completely rational thinking if I have ever seen it.[/quote
I purchase new technology when it offers some benefit to my life. Other than possibly a few bucks saved in operating cost how will having a EV improve my life? Anytime someone is critical about some aspect of EVs the answer is always a rationalization like “Most people won’t be in this situation”.
I purchase new technology when it offers some benefit to my life. Other than possibly a few bucks saved in operating cost how will having a EV improve my life? Anytime someone is critical about some aspect of EVs the answer is always a rationalization like “Most people won’t be in this situation”.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:54 pm to weagle99
If everyone drove electronic cars we wouldn’t have had these freak snow storms
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:55 pm to NatalbanyTigerFan
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Poorly
This is completely wrong. Batteries do perform worse in the cold, that is true. But the biggest draw from the batteries is when the car is spending energy at above a certain baseline rate, say 12kw/hr.
Sitting in the car running the heater will be running at 3kw an hour or so. For a tesla model 3, that's like a month of run time.
Take the lubed-up oil d out your mouth and maybe you can think better.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:55 pm to weagle99
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We can also talk about being stranded in hurricane evacuations if you like
It would be more relevant for most of the people on the board. For Ida I thought about this a lot. I always had access to power. I did not always have access to fuel. As far as evacuating, we can act like people do not run out of gas or have problems at gas stations all we want. With an EV, I can knock on someone's door and offer them a few bucks to plug into a 110v. Not time efficient but I see it as having a lot more options when evacuating than gas stations that run out in a large radius.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:00 pm to weagle99
Funny you should ask. Teslas actually have a camping mode.
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Tesla has a camp mode that you can put your Tesla vehicle into to make your stay anywhere comfortable while camping in your Tesla. Just put your vehicle into camp mode to maintain its cabin lighting, temperature, airflow and to play music. All while using less battery.
Camp mode is pretty innovative. The car can run the HVAC system with all the other systems turned off. This will allow you to have your car use minimal power. In the Model Y vehicle we saw, there was plenty of room for the person sleeping in the back.
LINK
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:02 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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Funny you should ask. Teslas actually have a camping mode.
Might need to put that in a meme as that is the basis for most of the research here
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:03 pm to jmarto1
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For Ida I thought about this a lot. I always had access to power. I did not always have access to fuel.
I had access to power because I had fuel.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:06 pm to EA6B
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Other than possibly a few bucks saved in operating cost how will having a EV improve my life?
Only you can answer that. I am not very mechanically inclined. My previous experience with Teslas lead me to the conclusion I would have less to maintain. My driving habits would lead to me saving a good bit of money over gas. That is the crux of all of these threads that bothers me the most. It is new technology and people should do actual research to see if it is for them. Instead, this very Louisiana board decides to live up to their reputation and push back against something they do not understand.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:07 pm to Clames
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And EV's have to heat their batteries which is wasted kWh.
The fact remains an EV is orders of magnitude more efficient at running the heater when stationary than an ICE vehicle. The efficiency flips when moving since outside the small amount of electricity needed to run the blower motor the heat transferred into the cabin is just waste for the ICE car. That just underscores how incredibly inefficient an ICE vehicle is when a small portion of the energy wasted as heat can heat the cabin even in the coldest temps.
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